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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by drb91 on Friday November 02, 2018 @03:29PM (#18365976)
Putting conditions on the use of the hardware is distinctly harmful to consumers in a way that otherwise good design cannot ameliorate.
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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by natch on Friday November 02, 2018 @03:36PM (#18366034)
Conditions like "must log in to a Google account to use this" and "must agree that Google can harvest your private data for financial gain so we can pay off those executives" yes that is harmful.
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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by lern_too_spel on Friday November 02, 2018 @05:49PM (#18367046)
I've yet to see a product that requires that. Let's compare Apple's devices against devices that actually exist instead of terrible devices that exist only in fantasy.
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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by natch on Friday November 02, 2018 @07:03PM (#18367444)
Relevant:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17944311

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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by lern_too_spel on Saturday November 03, 2018 @01:11PM (#18371277)
You can run as Guest on a Chromebook. No Google account required.
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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by natch on Saturday November 03, 2018 @06:31PM (#18372870)
Oh, Guest mode, that makes everything OK then. lol
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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by lern_too_spel on Saturday November 03, 2018 @10:26PM (#18373726)
It certainly breaks your claim and shows that Apple is the worst offender.
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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by natch on Sunday November 04, 2018 @05:55PM (#18378504)
Uhhhh... no.
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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by drb91 on Friday November 02, 2018 @03:44PM (#18366095)
No argument here :)
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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by village-idiot on Friday November 02, 2018 @03:52PM (#18366164)
Which has nothing to do with innovation. You might not like it, but it’s a meaningless argument when you’re asking about whether Apple is innovative or not.

Also, good luck finding a phone that doesn’t do that.

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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by drb91 on Friday November 02, 2018 @04:19PM (#18366378)
I wasn't arguing against them being innovative, I was pointing out that they are definitely also a landlord.

> Also, good luck finding a phone that doesn’t do that.

Not a good defense of amoral behavior.

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Re:Apple Used to Be an Inventor. Now It’s Mainly a Landlord by village-idiot on Friday November 02, 2018 @10:18PM (#18368289)
Fair.
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