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Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by drinko on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @02:18PM (#183634)
pg,

The idea was that always that she would be a full co-founder. We agreed on a low equity split initially because of the asymmetric risk we were taking. The idea was always to increase her stake 6 months into the project, but not in the way it happened.

I met her through a friend, and 3 months ago would have been proud to call her my cofounder.

I am going to learn to hack regardless, I am just trying to figure out the best way forward in the short term, as the payoff for learning to hack will be a few months.

Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by axod on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @02:27PM (#183657)
It doesn't sound particularly like she believed in the idea.

I think in retrospect it would have been better to offer 50% and the same salary as you.

Going forward though, I'd say definitely learn to hack. Also find people who might help not because of a salary, but because they think the idea is cool and want to be part of it.

Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by trevelyan on Thursday May 08, 2008 @03:30AM (#184292)
Learn to hack. Giving any employee a hazy equity offer with promises to "scale it up" is a bad idea. The better your prospects get the more she is likely to feel screwed. And the worse they get, the less motivating the prospect of continuing seems.

Any scaling equity package should be linked to dates and performance goals. You basically said you didn't want her to own the company unless it succeeded, when success was contingent on her.

Sounds like she trusted you. Then stopped trusting you. Then left a few months later. You screwed up. Go apologize.

Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by drinko on Thursday May 08, 2008 @03:38AM (#184298)
She wasn't initially hired as an employee - it was more of a contract agreement to develop the beta, with the option to come on as a full partner if we were working well together.

It wasn't a hazy equity offer.

Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by wehriam on Thursday May 08, 2008 @02:13PM (#184811)
What was the partner option contingent on?
Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by tptacek on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @02:32PM (#183669)
Why is "learning to hack" the answer here? Doesn't that leave this person with a startup with no team?
Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by kyro on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @02:36PM (#183681)
No one is saying learn to hack is the solution to the issue. Regardless of doing it alone, or finding a team, it'll be an invaluable tool. It'll help him play a more significant role if a team was formed.

Stop refuting everyone's opinion.

Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by run4yourlives on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @03:41PM (#183771)
It's not part of the solution here. It's just a good investment if you are running a tech start-up.

For example, if there was another partner here that knew how to hack, but wasn't a nurse, I'd say: Learn as much as possible about health care - it's your industry.

Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by axod on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @02:36PM (#183682)
Either learn to hack, or find others who are passionate about the idea who can hack. Rather than people who are passionate about a salary. But doing both is a good idea IMHO.
Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by tptacek on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @02:46PM (#183696)
Would definitely help them manage developers in the future. The best manager I ever had couldn't write a line though.
Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by axod on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @05:33PM (#183894)
You can be a sole founder you know. Works quite well :)
Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by flipbrad on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @05:39PM (#183899)
note that she took a pay cut because she wanted a greater stake in the company. does that fit with her not believing in it?

it does sound like she didn't have the experience or the maturity to whittle down to an achievable project, however. learn to code, maybe that plus this experience will make you a much stronger manager and designer next time around.

Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by cstejerean on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @07:24PM (#183990)
if I read it correctly she REFUSED to take a paycut.
Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by flipbrad on Thursday May 08, 2008 @04:32AM (#184321)
you're absolutely right, I apologise.

Point remains that asking for equity does not fit with expectation of failure.

Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by andreyf on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @02:27PM (#183656)
...as the payoff for learning to hack will be a few months.

It doesn't have to be that long. Do you have any programming experience? Do you have any friends that do? With a smart friend guiding you through, you can skip a lot of annoyances when you learn to program.

This is also a prudent point - what have you been doing the last 12 months? That would have been more than enough to get the hang of Django...

Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by drinko on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @02:35PM (#183677)
I don't have any programming experience beyond BASIC as a 5th grader.

Market research, ethnographic study, trying to raise more funding,(too early for VCs here, and there are not many risk taking angels here), running the ongoing alpha, liaising with patient groups, and health organisations, writing copy and designing interfaces. Learning about tech startups is a phase transition from the perspective of a nurse.

Re:Ask YC: Startup crisis. Out of money and tech co-founder ... by mbedwards on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @03:37PM (#183766)
Your project sides interesting and in the same space as mine. Send me an email at [email protected]