Smart decision from China perspective, they can't be reliant on something potentially so crucial with western technologies.

But I can't help but think how it will be used for monitoring of lives of everybody. You do one misstep, government will know about it. Effectively no privacy. Compared to what it may be (and probably will), current state of China is a hippie paradise.

These discussions reminds me how Nazis had their own physics…

I had never heard about this befoere. Now I have:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik

Absolutely nothing to do with it...

Are you sure? We're already getting stories over here in the West where people are struggling with the results AI gives them when applied to people because the results are basically Wrongthink, and are trying to figure out how to get the AIs to conform better to their ideology and preconceived notions of what the AIs should be outputting. It's not a terribly far trip from there to Deutsche Physik or Lysenkoism, except wrapped in a much denser fog of complex math and enough complicated details to construct any narrative you want. Using AI to ideologically crack down on a population will eventually reach even the AI researchers and destroy their ability to maintain and develop the AI.

(I don't think it's an inevitable trip from struggling with AI outputs and preconceived ideological notions to Lysenkoism. But I think it is an extremely tempting path for the society as a whole. There are a lot of forces that push in that direction, as the nature of the AI and what they do and control moves from a scientific and mathematical matter to a political one.)

This has nothing to do with Deutsche Physik but it fits the narrative of some people to associate China with Nazi Germany or any other dystopian regime.

The connection between China and "dystopian regimes" seems pretty clear to me. The biggest difference is that the Nazis and the Soviets could only dream of the tools the Chinese already have and will have, though the Soviets definitely proved that even without tech you could get yourself a pretty solidly oppressive police state going.

Only time can tell if the result will be a state that explodes even more quickly due to the suppressed stresses coming out all at once at some point, or a stable totalitarian state will emerge.

China lacks democracy, routinely "disapears" its own promenant people, censors the internet and has the death penatly for the purpose of organ harvesting for the rich[1].

In what way is China not already run by a dystopian regime?

[1] https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/the...

If you propagandize one side like that, of course it looks dystopian.

You could do the same exact thing for pretty much any state, country or bloc.

> In what way is China not already run by a dystopian regime?

How about the fact that they lifted 800 million people? Or the fact that they increased literacy rates from 20% before they came in power to nearly 100% today?

Using your logic, everything is always dystopian because you only choose to see the negative.

Every country has positives and negatives. Every single one.

It's not properganda if it's true, it's just news.

I'm sorry but the ends do not justify the means.

Whilst all countries have positives and negatives any country where you can't publically ridicule the ruling elite is dystopian. Every single one.

'if'

They also boil little children during secret ceremonies.

That's the sort of claims you've fallen for, so why not?