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Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by babygoat on Thursday November 01, 2018 @05:48PM (#18358792)
It's not free to participate.
Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by hueving on Thursday November 01, 2018 @06:05PM (#18358894)
It's only like 5 minutes of your time (if that), unless you have difficulties following basic account sign up processes on a website.
Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by Godel_unicode on Thursday November 01, 2018 @06:39PM (#18359109)
And you get that time back with interest in how easy it makes the check-in process.

Push notification 24hrs in advance, check in and automatically download boarding pass.

Phone has your boarding pass at the airport, as well as push notifications for gate changes.

Phone has the baggage carousel information and terminal maps with food and restrooms called out.

Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by ghostly_s on Thursday November 01, 2018 @07:40PM (#18359482)
Yeah....I get all that on all but the cheapest of discount airlines just by downloading their apps. This is not a "loyalty perk".
Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by Godel_unicode on Thursday November 01, 2018 @08:08PM (#18359642)
Why would you have the app and not sign up for the program?? It's no extra work, and it's not like you're avoiding being tracked. Especially with an airline.
Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by closetohome on Friday November 02, 2018 @01:08PM (#18364757)
That's a totally different game. Of course I have individual airline accounts, and of course I accumulate those points. Hell, half the time the points and website account are the same thing now.

But that's peanuts and will never add up to much because I only fly a few times a year and it's usually on different airlines. The real miles game is accumulating points from other purchases, and churning those into free travel and such. Both generating and redeeming points in those volumes is a lot of work -- I've done it and eventually decided it wasn't worth my time.

Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by ghostly_s on Friday November 02, 2018 @01:47PM (#18365100)
Because I just fly with whomever is cheaper/more convenient flight time. I don't fly often enough to get anything useful out of these rewards programs, and I delete the airline's app as soon as my trip is done; the cognitive overhead of creating yet-another-login and tracking these points with a half-dozen different airlines just so I might or might not get some sort of reward in five years is in no way an appealing value prop to me.
Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by Scoundreller on Thursday November 01, 2018 @06:11PM (#18358940)
Though I have seen airlines start offering 0 miles or a fraction of miles on the cheapest seats unless you pay more.
Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by closetohome on Friday November 02, 2018 @01:09PM (#18364762)
"Pay $20 to double your bonus miles!" is the airline equivalent of buying in-game currency.
Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by wpietri on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:11AM (#18360642)
Except that as this person explains, it's a huge time suck to do well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18359808
Re:On Hold for 45 Minutes? It Might Be Your Secret Customer ... by nicolas_t on Friday November 02, 2018 @03:02AM (#18361141)
Well there's different levels to it. He went full bore and did a lot of first class travel (which is harder to get due to low availability). If you just take a couple of hours getting familiarized with the different frequent traveler miles program and chose the right one for your travel pattern, plus make sure to get a credit card with a decent mile accumulation rate, you can already get a couple of business class long haul flights out of it.