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Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by threeseed on Thursday November 01, 2018 @05:15PM (#18358526)
People are also factoring in TCO with iOS/Android.

Apple supports their devices for 5 years. Android it's more like 2 or 3 and often much less. And with Apple's retail presence it's easy to get 1-1 support which is non-existent for anyone other than Samsung. And with the extraordinary performance of their A CPUs often their devices are holding up longer as well.

Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by samfisher83 on Thursday November 01, 2018 @05:20PM (#18358578)
Who keeps their phone for 5 years. The battery will be bad in 2 years. Replacing it requires disassembling a phone.
Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by rthille on Thursday November 01, 2018 @07:46PM (#18359518)
I've had my 6s since Sept 2015. It reports battery capacity as 86% of new, and still not throttled. I'll probably get the $29 battery replacement before the end of the year, just in case and keep the phone at least another year, if not 2. Previous phone was a 4s, bought Oct 2011. So, I guess I'm saying, "me. I keep my phone that long, or nearly so."
Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by samfisher83 on Thursday November 01, 2018 @09:27PM (#18360012)
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-long-people-wait-to-upgr...

The average person has their phone less than 2 years. If we assume a normal distribution and a standard deviation of 11 months then 83% of people will keep it less than 3 years. 5 years would be 3 std deviations. That is a very small number.

Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by threeseed on Thursday November 01, 2018 @05:23PM (#18358604)
Not sure about US but in Australia you can go to any shopping mall and there will be a shop where you can get your battery replaced.

Or even in most cities there are phone repair places that will get you a new battery pretty cheaply.

Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by umanwizard on Thursday November 01, 2018 @06:44PM (#18359133)
This is also true in the US (not sure of prices though I can’t imagine why it’d be mich different from Australia).

One big problem is that you don’t know whether you’re getting genuine parts, and aftermarket stuff can be quite crappy.

Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by setr on Thursday November 01, 2018 @05:23PM (#18358605)
I usually just keep my old phones in storage when I switch, and hand 'em off to visitors and such (or when I break my phone); comes in handy often enough. Battery holds sufficiently in a drawer.
Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by tinus_hn on Thursday November 01, 2018 @07:18PM (#18359361)
Replacing the battery is $29, parts and labor (for this year).
Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by samfisher83 on Thursday November 01, 2018 @09:16PM (#18359976)
That was a special because of the throttling the normal battery replacement is more than that.
Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by MBCook on Thursday November 01, 2018 @09:28PM (#18360017)
Yeah, but it’s not like it was $150 before. Compared to a new phone starting at $650 or so, even $89 (old price?) is a bargain.

(Obviously the new phone would have other benefits, but it’s a big price jump. Even for a refurb.)

Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by samfisher83 on Thursday November 01, 2018 @09:34PM (#18360036)
You could get a mid tier new phone for 200 which will be better than a 2 year old phone.
Re:Apple Reports Fourth Quarter Results by graeme on Thursday November 01, 2018 @08:37PM (#18359819)
The phones keep resale value that way.