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Re:Musk shakes up SpaceX in race to make satellite launch wi... by walrus01 on Thursday November 01, 2018 @01:08AM (#18351583)
the great firewall is not dead. Chinese authorities with spectrum analyzers could easily locate any rooftop customer premise radios. These things need to transmit. and they will need clear unobstructed view to the sky, nearly Horizon to Horizon.

there are already a number of countries in the world where men with guns will come and take your rooftop equipment if you try to operate an unauthorized two-way, small satellite link to the outside world. Uzbekistan for example, go take a small cheap 1.2 meter ku band VSAT terminal there, and operate it...

China is also a perfect example. I could totally go out right now and spend monthly recurring transponder kHz lease money to get a small to medium amount of two way capacity on Russian geostationary satellites that have ku band spot beams covering parts of China, and set up a two way link to a teleport in Germany.

But I give the chances of being able to operate a 1.2 to 1.8m size small VSAT in Xinjiang province for more than a week or two, very low odds. Whoever does this is going to end up in a prison or reeducation camp.

Re:Musk shakes up SpaceX in race to make satellite launch wi... by gaius on Thursday November 01, 2018 @04:37AM (#18352159)
being able to operate a 1.2 to 1.8m size small VSAT in Xinjiang province

Right; I think people are visualising this like a sort of Thuraya iPhone, which it very much will not be, because physics.

I mean Thuraya is amazing if you in the middle of the ocean, but no one under 40 has ever used a modem at that speed before...

Re:Musk shakes up SpaceX in race to make satellite launch wi... by walrus01 on Thursday November 01, 2018 @04:49AM (#18352198)
If they are successful with some sort of most-flat-panel phased array that can talk to two or three satellites simultaneously, I don't think it will be quite as obvious on a roof as a 1.2m cheap small VSAT... But it will still need to be big enough to have sufficient gain for a real link budget, and CNR ratios for complex modulations.

And its EIRP to Tx to a satellite >300km away at bitrates of 0.5 Mbps or better will be easy to find with portable spectrum analyzers hooked up to directional horn antennas.