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Re:What's happening with Arc? by hasenj on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @01:03PM (#1835010)
I like your "terse vs concise" argument. I always felt that PG's notion of succinct is analogous to "cryptic".

Short is not always good.

Re:What's happening with Arc? by silentbicycle on Tuesday October 26, 2010 @02:09PM (#1835328)
It probably has a positive correlation, but isn't an end in itself.

"Short" languages typically have a programming model which makes common coding tasks implicit: ML (and other languages with type inference) make most type annotations implicit, pattern-matching languages (Erlang, Prolog, ML, Haskell, awk) make a lot of de-structuring and switching code implicit, APL dialects (APL, J, K/Q, etc.) make looping implicit, concatenative languages (i.e. Forth, Joy, Factor) and tacit / "points-free" languages (Haskell and J, again) make variables and dataflow implicit, constraint and/or logic languages (Prolog, Mercury, Oz) make search implicit, etc.

It's often a net win, but some problems inevitably clash with their model - it seems important to have some kind of escape built into the language.