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Re:Available on Google Cloud: Intel Optane DC Persistent Memory by dijit on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @04:52PM (#18349210)
I have no practical experience with SAP HANA. But I’m a sysadmin and I’ve been to conferences where SAP has had stands and I have a tendency to ask too many questions.

SAP HANA is an in memory database. That’s all it is. It’s similar to Qlikview if you’ve used that. It’s licensed per socket, so scaling up is better than scaling out.

SAP will also host HANA for you, for a fee.

See. The thing is: SAP is a company for HR departments. The kinds of departments that aren’t technical, do not have technical staff to develop thing for them. (It’s an example) but your HR department talks to SAP, they deliver some service, sometimes something that the barely tech-literate members of HR is able to build on and then suddenly your sysadmins have to support those things in perpetuity.

Well. They market themselves as this anyway. And I have experience of our HR department buying all kinds of stuff from SAP and their child companies. (Concur, for example).

So I understand your incredulous-ness. This company is not made for us. And most of their tech isn’t either.

Re:Available on Google Cloud: Intel Optane DC Persistent Memory by toyg on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:03PM (#18349277)
> SAP is a company for HR departments.

And finance. And operations. And compliance, and ...

> The kinds of departments that aren’t technical

Which, in most businesses, are almost all of them. That's why they are so entrenched and so profitable, despite selling an utterly unfashionable and over-complicated stack.

Re:Available on Google Cloud: Intel Optane DC Persistent Memory by tcbawo on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:24PM (#18349400)
Is SAP in the business of selling solutions or technical stack/platform? From what I understand, there is a large ecosystem of private SAP consultants.
Re:Available on Google Cloud: Intel Optane DC Persistent Memory by vbezhenar on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @06:31PM (#18349768)
AFAIK SAP will sell you a platform and you'll hire consultants who will build solution for your company using that platform.
Re:Available on Google Cloud: Intel Optane DC Persistent Memory by IronWolve on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:23PM (#18349390)
We use SAP for finance in many countries world wide, many countries require you to use SAP now so they can give you the tax & legal information for each country in a SAP format to make sure you are up to their countries codes.

I suspect they also want information back from you, and most likely in a SAP compatible version.

This was all told to me at our IT quarterly meeting, with our new SAP deployments, as IT does not actually input the data, just run the servers.

Funny how we run the stuff, but sometimes dont even know how its used.

Re:Available on Google Cloud: Intel Optane DC Persistent Memory by Spooky23 on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @08:17PM (#18350399)
The other critical attribute is that it isn’t Oracle. It’s really not in SAP’s interest to have the Oracle guy in there for annual renewals.