Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Meter Telescope

Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by rayiner on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @03:08PM (#18348427)

> don't like this because I think seizing via violence is fucked

As you acknowledge in the next paragraph, it’s not like Native Americans weren’t seizing land from each other by violence. So what good does it do to write off the primary ways in which land is acquired in the absence of any applicable legal process?

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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by komali2 on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @03:33PM (#18348616)

I didn't intend to write off, I just took a moment to insert my own opinion.

Does bring up a good point though - are the borders of most countries now "locked in?" Perhaps. Federations might form / break apart, which could shift around "sovereign territory." Like, imagine the EU consolidating, or the USA splitting.

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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by gaius on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:44PM (#18349525)

are the borders of most countries now "locked in?

Ask the Ukrainians.

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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by User23 on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @06:46PM (#18349840)

Interesting thing about annexation is that legally it isn't the taking of territory, it's recognizing that an area has always been part of one's territory.

This can get messy, but it can also give rise to some really culturally fascinating places, like the Alsace.

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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by User23 on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @06:45PM (#18349831)

The law itself is predicated on violence. What would a legal ruling mean without enforcement? Indeed the colonization of the new world was entirely legal under the laws of the colonists.

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