Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Meter Telescope

Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by ergothus on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @02:36PM (#18348179)

My understanding (based on visiting hawaii as a tourist and not much else) is that no, there's not a US-legally recognized sovereignty, but there is a step back from:

* "They voluntarily joined the US" language

* the repression of culture - in particular but not limited to language, which was apparently ruthlessly quashed for a long while and is enjoying a lot more respect today, relatively speaking.

In a courtroom I doubt this would count for much, but in a war of PR releases it can be significant, and most of what I found about this case was press releases.

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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by jmisavage on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @03:08PM (#18348426)

There's a rich history of corporations and the us government screwing over Hawaiians. The monarchy was overthrown by a group of businessmen and sugar planters after they forced Queen Liliuokalani to abdicate. Two years later it became a US territory against the wishes of the natives. Then the sugar industry help keep it a territory for 60 years because they could import cheap foreign labor.

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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by adrr on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @07:09PM (#18349969)

History of Hawaii is all about using force to take land from the population. First settler where from the Marquesas Islands and they were conquered by the Tahitians.

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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by rootoor on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @08:12PM (#18350373)

What’s your point?

Are you saying that it doesn’t matter that sovergty was taken violently from the Hawaiians because their ancestors conquered the original inhabitants hundreds of years ago?

Would it be fair if Russia came in and took Hawaii from the US because the “History of Hawaii is all about using force to take land from the population”?

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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by bufferoverflow on Thursday November 01, 2018 @04:05AM (#18352062)

But how far back in history do you want to go? Why is it that pre-US owners are the real ones and not the pre-pre-US ones?

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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by 8bitsrule on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @07:38PM (#18350154)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow_of_the_Kingdom_of_Ha...

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