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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by codezero on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @02:06PM (#18347958)
I think that since it didn't voluntarily surrender its sovereignty, some might feel it should still have it, but I don't know too much about the subject, so maybe it's time for me to read up a bit.
Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by sosborn on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @02:14PM (#18348021)
You hit the nail on the head.

The stuff about pollution and interruption of cultural practices is more about the idea that those things are being forced upon native Hawaiians, much like annexation was.

Not all native Hawaiians feel this way about the telescopes, but the ones that do are the ones protesting.

Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by protomyth on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @03:21PM (#18348545)
> Not all native Hawaiians feel this way about the telescopes, but the ones that do are the ones protesting.

Plus some other tribal folks from the rest of the US showed up to protest. I'm glad this was posted, now I know what the heck they were talking about when the relatives used the phrase "going to Hawaii to protest a volcano". I was a bit confused.

Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by 52-6F-62 on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @03:51PM (#18348740)
I was in Kona for the Iron Man Worlds just a couple of weeks ago. We spent some time up and down the west coast there.

And for what it's worth I saw more Kingdom of Hawaii flags than any other.

On a side note I could move there tomorrow and take up surfing. So anybody willing to have a remote engineer working on Hawaii time just let me know...

Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by codezero on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @11:14PM (#18351202)
Fwiw it’s probably not as beautiful but for the continental US I recommend San Diego for remote eng and surfing. There’s a bit less localism and it’s at least 70% as beautiful and probably 200% more convenient :)