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Re:Looming Lisp Boom? by mynameishere on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @12:09PM (#183463)
non-coding bosses

My impression is that non-coding bosses don't care that much, or, they care enough to recommend what they read in trade journals. Solution: Talk up Lisp (etc) in trade journals. That java is a standard because it is "dumb" is a myth. Not one CTO in a million went through a catalog of languages and said, "Nope, this has closures. Nope, this has eval()..." Otherwise, they would have come to, "Nope, this has garbage collection... We're sticking with COBOL."

Re:Looming Lisp Boom? by signa11 on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @12:35PM (#183487)
pg said it best "The pointy-haired boss miraculously combines two qualities that are common by themselves, but rarely seen together: (a) he knows nothing whatsoever about technology, and (b) he has very strong opinions about it."
Re:Looming Lisp Boom? by mojuba on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @12:21PM (#183471)
From my experience in different companies, big and small, decisions are made based on the number of factors:

* Trade journals, as you said, which appeal solely to the corporate bosses; although I'd give this a lower importance among others.

* Wages and availability of programmers in the job market.

* A chance for the boss to understand the language and/or to talk about architecture on the meetings easily, if needed. This one is interesting, as, I think, that's the main reason Java is popular. Smarter bosses can read some semi-technical journals, where "patters", "methodologies" and "common practices" are explained well for them -- just for them.

So, Java clearly wins in all 3 points, while Lisp loses in all 3.

Re:Looming Lisp Boom? by graywh on Wednesday May 07, 2008 @12:54PM (#183509)
How about another one that also applies to open-source software:

* Corporation to blame for its problems and shortcomings.