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Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by nkkollaw on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @11:46AM (#18337799)
No USB ports.
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Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by lostgame on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @12:41PM (#18338566)
Upvoting this because it was ridiculously down-voted, and I'm not sure why.

No, USB-C ports are not 'USB' ports. Not as 'USB' ports have been for at least a decade and a half. Almost two.

USB 1.0 and USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 managed to all use the same connector, and not charge us out the ass for adapters to use the same hardware.

If you're not pissed about USB-C, or you somehow think that having a port you can no longer plug any of your previous devices into without a costly and non-bundled adapter is equivalent to having an actual, standard USB port, you probably simply haven't had to deal with dongle life.

We have an inside joke at my work where we literally call these ports 'not-USB'.

The fact that Apple's flagship phone and flagship computer can't connect out of the box without paying for an additional cable indicates blatantly how horrible this situation is. That they had the audacity to release phones only a month ago that were still incompatible after all this time almost makes me feel that they are intentionally messing with us.

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Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by dragonwriter on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @02:21PM (#18339789)
> USB 1.0 and USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 managed to all use the same connector,

No, they didn't.

USB 1.0 used A and B connectors

USB 2.0 added Mini A and Mini B

USB 2.0 Revised added the Micro A and Micro B connectors

USB 3.0 modified the A and B connectors, and the Micro A and Micro B connectors, and deprecated the Mini A and Mini B connectors.

USB 3.1 added the C connector.

USB 3.2 didn't mess with connectors, for once.

(And it's even a little more complicated if you talk about sockets, because then you need to talk about the Mini and Micro AB sockets, as well as sockets corresponding directly to each of the connectors.)

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Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by matthewmacleod on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @02:28PM (#18339860)
costly and non-bundled adapter

While it’s mildly inconvenient that none are bundled, USB-C ports are passively compatible with USB-A - I can purchase a 3-pack of adaptors on Amazon for £3.59.

In practice I’ve rarely found it an inconvenience. More often the problem is having to plug into a display in a conference room or whatever, which sometimes makes me miss the HDMI port that was built in to the older MacBook Pro.

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Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by Karunamon on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @12:48PM (#18338633)
It was probably ridiculously downvoted for being worthless snark that adds nothing to the conversation.

As to "costly", a USB -> USBC hub can be had for around the same price as a regular hub on Amazon, starting around $4.99 and going up from there.

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Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by FiveSquared on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @02:13PM (#18348016)
A good one costs 60-80 ish. https://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Aluminum-Multi-Port-Ethernet-...
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