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Re:Humanity has wiped out 60% of animals since 1970, major r... by lifeformed on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @11:01AM (#18337124)
You plainly said that black people are genetically incapable of being held to the same ethical standards of white people. Come on dude, get out of here.
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Re:Humanity has wiped out 60% of animals since 1970, major r... by kalenx on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @11:44AM (#18337775)
Again, this is plain racism. This is the precise definition of judging a group of people solely based on their race. Refuse to see that things like IQs and crime rate can be affected by so much factors than race if you must. Say "black people exhibit higher crime rate, so it must be genetic" while overlook the mere spurious correlation behind it, but at least acknowledge it. You are racist.
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Re:Humanity has wiped out 60% of animals since 1970, major r... by kalenx on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @12:51PM (#18338668)
Fair enough. Have your motte and bailey.

You said (verbatim) : "Holding black people to the same standard as white people when they are genetically incapable of meeting that standard seems like a much bigger problem"

True, you did not define "standard". Then you attack people when they infer you're talking about ethics, or crime rate, or whatever other interpretation. Sure, but you were definitely not talking about the ability to cook a Thanksgiving turkey. If you do not want your writings to be open to interpretation, then be specific.

> When someone states the objective fact that black people have lower IQs than whites or Asians, that is not racism.

No, but saying that this is because of their genetic is. Because you have no reasoning backing that other than "they're black, so there could not be any other reason explaining the lower IQ". Same thing for crime rate. Crime rate is a fact, not racist in itself. But facts do not make discussions. No one brings a fact just to leave it there. You bring it to back up an opinion. And this opinion can definitely be racist.

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Re:Humanity has wiped out 60% of animals since 1970, major r... by yesenadam on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @07:41PM (#18342178)
try to assume good faith

That is something you conspicuously failed to do dozens of times on this page. The other person is always missing the point, didn't read what you said, falling victim to one myth or another, disingenuous, irrelevant, fixating, making absolutely no sense, slipping in thing at the end after the red herrings, seem eager to put words in your mouth ...

It makes for super-tiresome reading. This is not a productive method of communication. (That was you complaining about the other guy yet again.)

Please consider that you are just one person among many on here, and that you may seem as ignorant, misguided, irrational, unfair, impossible-to-argue-with, prejudiced to them as they apparently seem to you. And please be more considerate in future. Be civil. Don't be snarky.

Re:Humanity has wiped out 60% of animals since 1970, major r... by kalenx on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @05:52PM (#18341582)
Here is just one of your incorrect inference :

> Black crime rate being high explains black arrest rate being high.

Where is the causality here? Sure, there is a correlation and sure, it may be seen as a reasonable argument, but like your point before about CO2 not being a problem, you completely overlook that there could be many causes for the same event.

How is your fact about crime rates invalidating the position "there is racism amongst police forces"? The effect of the higher crime rates _and_ racism are not mutually exclusive.

But you choose to rather adopt a point of view where every situation can apparently be 100% explained by a single cause. And that cause is that black people are not "up the standard" -- whatever standard you are talking about.

Yup, that's racism.

Re:Humanity has wiped out 60% of animals since 1970, major r... by lifeformed on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @02:01PM (#18339549)
"Ethical" was added as a clarification, since you were talking about crime.