Soup – Alan Kay on Objects

Re:Soup – Alan Kay on Objects by andrepd on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:33PM (#18332648)

Ocaml has both! You have a (very powerful) module system, serving purposes of encapsulation and namespacing, and other more powerful abstractions, and you also have dynamic/message-passing style OOP available to you.

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Re:Soup – Alan Kay on Objects by jjtheblunt on Monday October 29, 2018 @09:41PM (#18333379)

...and no access to multicore processing that's been ubiquitous for over a decade?

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Re:Soup – Alan Kay on Objects by icc97 on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @12:04PM (#18338030)

I was quite amazed that this wasn't the case. OCaml clearly is working on it - http://ocamllabs.io/doc/multicore.html

Plus there are monadic ways of handling concurrency with lwt.

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Re:Soup – Alan Kay on Objects by xfer on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @01:02AM (#18334101)

You can use multicores, just make processes.

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Re:Soup – Alan Kay on Objects by codesmythe on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:50PM (#18333901)

A question: can OCaml’s object system be used to implement a runtime similar to that of Objective-C (things like obj_msgsend)? Or does OCaml’s type system impose restrictions that prevent this level of dynamic operation?

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Re:Soup – Alan Kay on Objects by atombender on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @12:48AM (#18334070)

Does anyone actually use the OO stuff? Last I checked, the consensus was that it was a failure and that it should be avoided in modern OCaml.

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