yup. taught myself ASM through countless hours debugging/tracing/reversing code (and also reading Intel's docs). i learned how to reverse before i really got interested in programming. i had a tiny bit of C++/Pascal experience from high school. C# came out and I saw an easy way to bust out quick windows apps with a decent GUI. made a hacking/macroing framework for Ultima Online in C#, really hideous, horrible, awful code....but I came up with some decent patches for the many different UO clients.