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Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by daphneokeefe on Sunday October 28, 2018 @06:23PM (#18323603)
I am a pollworker in San Francisco, and I can tell you from personal experience with thousands of voters that Ranked-Choice Voting is widely misunderstood. The common refrain is: I only want to vote for this one candidate, and not for anyone else. In a hotly-contested election, they absolutely do not want to vote for the other guy as #2.
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Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by mikelward on Sunday October 28, 2018 @06:53PM (#18323716)
Then make it optional preferential voting. You can number as many boxes as you want.

It works that way in New South Wales. Apparently in Ireland, Northern Ireland, and Malta, too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optional_preferential_voting

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Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by unethical_ban on Monday October 29, 2018 @10:29AM (#18327792)
An interesting take, thank you. I wonder which would be more complex to explain: That is is easier to just rank the candidates and each "non-primary" vote only counts in a runoff? Or Do "optional" voting, and explain that if their #1 candidate gets eliminated, their voice will no longer count?
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Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by ikfmpwdsoz on Sunday October 28, 2018 @06:51PM (#18323710)
How hard is it to explain to people that their vote only goes to #2 if #1 is already out of the running?
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Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by daphneokeefe on Sunday October 28, 2018 @07:41PM (#18323925)
Well, you only get an opportunity to explain something when they ask.
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Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by baddox on Sunday October 28, 2018 @09:44PM (#18324373)
It’s a challenge when people have only ever been exposed to first-past-the-post voting systems their entire life.

And besides, it’s really not fair to assume that voting systems are simple to understand. Just have a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_electoral_system...

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Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by unethical_ban on Monday October 29, 2018 @10:23AM (#18327751)
I don't know why you're downvoted, but as someone advocating for RCV, I think that the "instant runoff" method is about as easy as it can get, next to the FPTP we use today.

I agree there are other methods that are better by the book than the IRV method, but are exercises in statistics and graph theory.

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