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Re:Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link by booleandilemma on Sunday October 28, 2018 @11:12AM (#18320948)
they probably like lower salaries because it increases their chance of success and this payout

From my experience it’s the opposite. Recruiters try to get you the highest salary they can because then they get a bigger cut. More than one of them has told me this.

There have been a couple times when I’ve told them my desired salary and they’ve upped it by 40% or more.

Yes, there are scummy recruiters out there, but for the most part I think recruiters are great. It’s like having an agent!

People in other fields don’t get this experience and they have to work harder to find a job. I’m not talking about technical interviews, but just getting your foot in the door.

Re:Tell recruiters politely “no” with a simple link by tinco on Sunday October 28, 2018 @03:49PM (#18322708)
I'm in The Netherlands so this might be a little different than SF where everyone capitalizes on the value of good developers. He opened with a salary that I'd consider average to slightly above average for a regular senior developer, in The Netherlands. I felt a bit cocky and thought if he's worth anything, he should be getting me jobs that pay more than I could get myself, so I countered him 50% above that. He was really hesitant and tried to talk me down, saying it would be difficult to find a job that pays that, saying my CV wasn't that impressive, I held on saying that a good hiring manager would see the value in my skills. Over ~3 months he came up with three leads, one of which ticked all three of my professional expertise boxes (ruby, devops and product ownership) and sounded really interesting to me, but I was pursuing other things at the time so turned it down.

I do agree that it very much feels like having an agent. I tell him what I can do, and what I want to make, and he goes out and find a job for me. I don't mind him taking a cut, if he finds jobs that I wouldn't find because I just go starry eyed from startup to startup.