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Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by CaptainZapp on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:10AM (#18299531)
Good grief!

Why not drink green tea if you're interested in the positive effects of green tea?

Apart from its positive effects it's a fantastic drink.

Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by ianai on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:12AM (#18299540)
I wish we knew the equivalent amount of green tea he was taking.
Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by tluyben2 on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:35AM (#18299612)
Must be an awful lot... Why do people when they read ‘x is good for you’ or ‘x might cure y’ go completely overboard. We had these ‘fasting might help prevent Alzheimer’ and the articles contain something about 24 hours low calory etc; then I read HN and Reddit and see people, responding to the article, doing 2 weeks water fast saying it is da bomb. There was an article about coffee preventing (...) liver cancer; people responding eating packs of raw coffee beans, drinking liters of coffee etc. All vitamin news is the same; people taking handsful of then dangerous amounts of vitamins. Moderately seems key to all.
Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by CaptainZapp on Thursday October 25, 2018 @06:46AM (#18299900)
There's only one word that wants to make me yell at my flat screen more than super food

And that would be influencer

Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by imtringued on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:40AM (#18299638)
Probably slightly more than 6 cups per pill if we assume that each pill contains 500mg catechins. The daily limit for someone who weighs 70kg is around 700mg which means one pill per day is the maximum.
Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by zone411 on Thursday October 25, 2018 @05:56AM (#18299703)
Umm because the studies that showed positive effects were not from drinking green tea but from concentrated supplements.
Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by SmellyGeekBoy on Thursday October 25, 2018 @06:39AM (#18299876)
Absolutely not true at all.
Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by zone411 on Thursday October 25, 2018 @07:05AM (#18299982)
How many studies should I show you that use green tea _extract_, not green tea?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30174618

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29429153

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28904061

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28585735

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27806972

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27062963

etc.

Even studies with just "Green Tea" in their titles use green tea extracts: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27797683

It's obvious that the public would not be interested in green tea without all the studies using concentrated green tea extracts.

Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by CaptainZapp on Thursday October 25, 2018 @08:48AM (#18300453)
You're aware that beta carotene, which was hailed as a super food suplement before the term even existet turned out to be carcinogenic? Uups!

I'm not a food scientist, but believe it's extremely problematic to focus on one component or ingredient of something, which is a rather complex combination of a lot of ingredients in a product. Green tea extract may not act the same as actual green tea for umteen reasons.

Another point is cultural context. I'm convinced (and may be talking out of my arse, but I'm still convinced) that part of what makes something like the mediterrean diet successful is cultural context. People take the time to sit down to lunch and dinner. And this matters.

If you try to repackage the exact same ingredients and wolf it down in 10 minutes in front of a tv, or during lunch at your desk it's not the same thing and does not provide the same benefits.

You're free to put me down as some esotheric crank. But my conviction is that a healthy diet is a mixture of not too much crap and sometimes a bit crap, because it's fun and makes you feel good and gives you pleasure.

Nutrition, in my opinion, is much more complex than the ingredients that you put into your body.

edit: A couple spellos

Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by illiac_1962 on Thursday October 25, 2018 @06:59AM (#18299956)
You are ignoring the most comprehensive studies. Population analysis. There are populations that drink green tea regularly as a matter of tradition. Thats how this shit was discovered in the first place.
Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by zone411 on Thursday October 25, 2018 @07:09AM (#18299997)
Compared to hundreds of studies about green tea extracts, many of them reported by the media, those population-wide studies had minimal effects on the public. And even those studies would usually find the largest effects on people who drink impractically large amounts of green tea, e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3103781/ or http://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/722554/relationship-betwee... (6 cups per day!). In addition, there are many confounding factors with population-wide studies compared to clinical studies.
Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by yoklov on Thursday October 25, 2018 @08:43AM (#18300420)
Honestly its not impractical if you just replace your coffee with it. I probably average over 6 cups per day, and don’t really do it out of any health concern at all.
Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by Tor3 on Thursday October 25, 2018 @09:56AM (#18300890)
6 cups of green tea per day isn't anything unusual. There's always tea ready at home (my wife is Japanese). And at work I drink much more coffee than 3 (normal) cups. I don't drink coffee at home though. But I'm getting a lot of green (and other) tea instead.
Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by scns on Thursday October 25, 2018 @08:10AM (#18300262)
I drink about 1,5 liters of green tea nearly every day, nothing impractical about it.
Re:Green tea supplements ruined my liver by adrianN on Thursday October 25, 2018 @10:51AM (#18301308)
Population studies don't have control groups and are largely worthless for recommending supplementation. There are just too many confounding factors.