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Re:Tesla Third Quarter 2018 Update [pdf] by gamblor956 on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @07:18PM (#18297312)
Other carmakers don't need to build their own charging network. It's already being handled for them by thousands of businesses installing standards-compatible chargers. There are 3 new chargers on my block that were installed within the last month. Another 6 scheduled to be installed in my building's garage in the next month. That's in addition to the dozens that are already located in my part of LA. In Santa Monica, the city installed several dozen chargers in their city parking structures and lots. The Inglewood Stadium and the Dodgers are installing chargers in the off-season. Most malls have dedicated spots for charging EVs. Nearly every parking structure in Century City has EV chargers....

Meanwhile, the closest Tesla superchargers are nearly double-digit miles away, far from the freeways, so at best 30 minutes away without traffic and up to 3 hours away with traffic. And since there are so few of them, you basically cross your fingers and hope that one of them is free when you get there.

Re:Tesla Third Quarter 2018 Update [pdf] by dpkonofa on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @09:25PM (#18297899)
If you're referring to Blink and Chargepoint chargers, then I'm not worried for Tesla at all. Both of these suck really badly and take forever to charge. I used to use these all the time for my electric Focus and would maybe get 20 miles charged in an hour. With my Tesla, I charged the car up to full in about 20 minutes and it sent me a text with 5 minutes left so I was able to grab a quick bite to eat.
Re:Tesla Third Quarter 2018 Update [pdf] by kurthr on Thursday October 25, 2018 @01:45AM (#18298759)
Most of the ChargePoint and other chargers are 6-8kW. SuperChargers are 100-120kW... they are more than 10x faster to charge. It's the difference between 10min for 100mi 2hours!

That means that even with absurd 6mph traffic that takes 3 hours to get 30mi, you might still finish charging first on the SuperCharger (15min vs 3hours).

Re:Tesla Third Quarter 2018 Update [pdf] by mohaine on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @08:36PM (#18297704)
Destination chargers are normally much slower charging and are not really usable for a long trip. Good for overnight but nobody wants to charge a half hour for every hour on the road.
Re:Tesla Third Quarter 2018 Update [pdf] by illumin8 on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @08:24PM (#18297644)
The problem is that all of these community chargers inevitably break down and there is zero incentive for them to be repaired. It seems like local businesses might get a tax break to install a charging station, but without any incentive to maintain them they get broken in a few months and never work again.
Re:Tesla Third Quarter 2018 Update [pdf] by woah on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @11:13PM (#18298334)
Why don’t they charge for them?
Re:Tesla Third Quarter 2018 Update [pdf] by dreamcompiler on Thursday October 25, 2018 @02:58AM (#18299013)
I rented a Tesla for a few days for a long drive, and very quickly I learned to ignore any charging station that wasn't a supercharger. For a gas station analogy, non-superchargers are a broken-down single-pump station with peeling paint in a bad neighborhood that may or may not be open, and a supercharger is a clean, brightly-lit 24-hour Shell station. Which would you prefer for filling up your car?