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Re:Amazon Pitches Facial Recognition to Monitor Immigrants by michaelt on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @06:44AM (#18291216)

  Why sell cars that can go faster
  than $MaxSpeedInYourCountry ???
Politicians today have three choices:

(1) Set and enforce low speed limits, large numbers of drivers make low-impact complaints.

(2) Set and enforce high speed limits, small numbers of parents of dead children make high-impact complaints.

(3) Set low speed limits but don't enforce them. Anti-speed campaigners and road users are both satisfied.

In my country, politicians tend to go for (3). A switch to (1) would not be without its costs.

Re:Amazon Pitches Facial Recognition to Monitor Immigrants by leereeves on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @08:01AM (#18291630)
In response to aggressive use of traffic cameras, people in a number of cities and states have passed propositions banning their use.

A switch to (1) might have similar effects, motivating the people to force a switch to (2).

Re:Amazon Pitches Facial Recognition to Monitor Immigrants by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @08:02AM (#18291640)
Any use of traffic cameras is seen as 'aggressive'. It inevitably results in hundreds of tickets that otherwise wouldn't be written, affecting hundreds of citizens in a way they see as intrusive and 'unfair'. For better or worse.
Re:Amazon Pitches Facial Recognition to Monitor Immigrants by HillaryBriss on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @10:16AM (#18292582)
not disagreeing with the first part of your statement, but, for the second part, a reasonable remedy would be to simply lower the cost of each violation.

e.g. if almost everyone got speeding tickets, but they only cost $15 and didn't involve any points against the driver's record or insurance premium hikes, people would simply pay up and probably speed less often. complaints about the injustice of speeding tickets would probably remain at current levels.

Re:Amazon Pitches Facial Recognition to Monitor Immigrants by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @12:00PM (#18293574)
Tragically, reasonable fees for bad behavior encourage the opposite behavior: all guilt evaporates and folks feel entitled to the behavior, after all they can pay for it. Famous studies of charging parent who were late picking up children from school, everybody started doing it and gladly paying.
Re:Amazon Pitches Facial Recognition to Monitor Immigrants by HillaryBriss on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @04:19PM (#18295972)
Ok, but, could it be that the fee charged to parents was simply too low?

Can't we just view "the right to speed" as a service offered by the government and then apply the usual price and demand logic to it?

Re:Amazon Pitches Facial Recognition to Monitor Immigrants by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @04:45PM (#18296197)
I've had the same idea - a geometrically increasing 'fee' for road use depending on speed. Kind of like toll roads, but maybe even most roads. If you want to spend the money (and have the money, thus likely the deep pockets to compensate for damage) then go ahead!
Re:Amazon Pitches Facial Recognition to Monitor Immigrants by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @11:23AM (#18293190)
But that wouldn't satisfy the "if you speed you're Literally Hitler (TM) crowd" who want punishment for minor traffic infractions to be sized for deterrence rather than the actual harm to society.
Re:Amazon Pitches Facial Recognition to Monitor Immigrants by JoeAltmaier on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @08:04AM (#18291653)
Anarchy! I remember my first time through Chicago at 7PM years ago, merging onto an 11 lane highway with a 45mph speed limit and finding everybody, absolutely everybody, going 80.

Some enforcement has to be done or it gets out of hand ever so quickly

Re:Amazon Pitches Facial Recognition to Monitor Immigrants by bsenftner on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @10:17AM (#18292598)
Yeah, Los Angeles has no speed limit at all, anywhere. It's basically "don't be a dick, or you'll get pulled over" as your cruising 70 mph next to a cop in a school zone.