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Re:Sqlite: Code Of Conduct by Sprign on Monday October 22, 2018 @01:08PM (#18276368)
Here the discussion was a bit broader and the point was about the religious context rather than the Benedictine themselves.

To be fair the Benedictine order wasn't one of the worst orders with respct to whole witch/heresy craze but that kinda furthers the irony of the whole situation: watching to the other side while someone is being persecuted (or bullied) puts you closer to the oppressor than to the oppresed.

Re:Sqlite: Code Of Conduct by d0100 on Monday October 22, 2018 @01:48PM (#18276698)
> watching to the other side while someone is being persecuted (or bullied) puts you closer to the oppressor than to the oppresed.

This would then dismiss every CoC-related effort, because most enforcers do little regarding humans being persecuted in other countries...

Re:Sqlite: Code Of Conduct by Sprign on Tuesday October 23, 2018 @05:07AM (#18281870)
This is a bit of a logical fallacy: the fact that you are not able (maybe even because of your own limited self) to do good in every possible context it doesn't mean that you shouldn't do good in the contexts whee you can!
Re:Sqlite: Code Of Conduct by d0100 on Tuesday October 23, 2018 @05:41AM (#18282013)
It is, and that's what I tried to highlight with my comment.

Apply your comment to the monks then.

Re:Sqlite: Code Of Conduct by Sprign on Tuesday October 23, 2018 @08:33AM (#18282778)
I'm pretty sure that many monks individuals did the best they could with what they were given. That is very different from it being true for the whole order of the Benedictine.

At the same time I do believe that the spirit of Christianity, Islam and most other religions is inherently good, positive and inclusive and there are definitely people that use that as a guide to improve themselves and their lives.

BUT, even if the spirit is good, the actual history says that these organisation shouldn't be held on a moral high ground for anything because they don't deserve it.

Moreover, even today, chances are that if you are a non-conforming individual in a very religious community you are subject to isolation, bullying and shaming.

And that's why I find it of very bad taste to use this as a CoC that should guide integration: if I have been bullied from my ultra-religious community, for example because I am bisexual, then I'll not find that a very welcoming sign.