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Re:Linux 4.19 by geofft on Monday October 22, 2018 @07:56AM (#18273897)
> Some elements of the Code are unobjectionable; sexual advances, for instance, have no place on the lkml (though they may at, say, a conference, and not everyone can reliably predict whether they are unwelcome)'

I feel like one of the neat things about a code of conduct is it provides cleanly defined answers for people who are genuinely unsure whether sexual advances are welcome at professional conferences.

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Re:Linux 4.19 by forgottenpass on Monday October 22, 2018 @10:05AM (#18274725)
>it provides cleanly defined answers for people who are genuinely unsure whether sexual advances are welcome at professional conferences.

So chatting at the convention center bar with other attendees falls outside CoC scope?

Or are you saying that the clearly defined "no" exists exclusively for the kind of people that would be unsure, while the answer remains "yes" for people who are self-assured?

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Re:Linux 4.19 by geofft on Monday October 22, 2018 @08:53PM (#18279942)
The clearly defined "no" should exist for both. If a code of conduct does not apply to everyone, it's simply another tool for those confident in their status and power to do what they want and the rest to watch helplessly—which is the entire problem being solved by codes of conduct in the first place.

(A fear that a code of conduct will not be applied equitably without regard of persons is an entirely valid reason to object to one.)

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Re:Linux 4.19 by patrickg_zill on Monday October 22, 2018 @09:20AM (#18274371)
Life is messy and indistinct. 1 out of 7 couples meet via work...
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