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Re:Tricks That Can Outsmart Deepfake Videos for Now by kakarot on Saturday October 20, 2018 @01:04PM (#18264192)
I just hope we can figure out a way to create watermarks, like maybe some kind of hash sum incorporating an asymmetric key which is injected by the camera / device, which can provide verification of source and which cannot be overwritten.

Possibly could involve some kind of blockchain tech similar to https://proofofexistence.com. It doesn't solve all of the problems but at least we can begin establishing a record of source. The point is, something needs to be done to augment the trust we have in journalists because it's easy to trick or buy people out.

Re:Tricks That Can Outsmart Deepfake Videos for Now by krastanov on Saturday October 20, 2018 @01:13PM (#18264239)
You really do not need anything that complicated (definitely not a block chain, when you only need the merkle tree). All of this is exactly what cryptographic signatures are for, a tech that is decades old.

And as mentioned in the above comments, it does not help with analog loopholes and trust in the person being photographed.

Re:Tricks That Can Outsmart Deepfake Videos for Now by kakarot on Saturday October 20, 2018 @07:40PM (#18266051)
The blockchain provides an immutable public record. Yes, not necessary but still an interesting approach and actually a decent fit for a blockchain. A blockchain might still be an over fit but it's useful if I claim to have an undoctored video at a certain point in time but don't want to release it, immediately, and need a distributed way to validate that claim.

> And as mentioned in the above comments, it does not help with analog loopholes and trust in the person being photographed.

Like I said in my above comment, it doesn't solve all of the problems but at least we can begin establishing a record of source.

Re:Tricks That Can Outsmart Deepfake Videos for Now by krastanov on Saturday October 20, 2018 @11:06PM (#18266556)
I am pretty sure that what you are calling a block chain is actually just a single hash or at most a Merkle tree. You do not need a consensus algorithm (PoW or PoS or whatever), i.e. you do not need a block chain if all you want is decentralized verification of a current or future publication.
Re:Tricks That Can Outsmart Deepfake Videos for Now by kakarot on Sunday October 21, 2018 @04:47AM (#18267204)
I was just making an arbitrary suggestion based on previous work by proofofexistence.com. I didn't suggest it was the only way or the best way forward.

I realize that people all the time try to say "Blockchain would be great for ____" so you're probably a little hypersensitive and I get that, but the suggestion of a blockchain was arbitrary and tangential to the real point of my post, so I don't really feel like getting into it right now.