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Re:Show HN: Optimage – Advanced image optimization tool by juliend2 on Friday October 19, 2018 @08:03PM (#18260938)
Off-topic, but at the bottom of the page there is this quote from Jay Walker at TED 2008:

> “It takes the energy in one lump of coal to move 1 MB of information across the net.”

I wonder if it's still true today, 10 years later.

Re:Show HN: Optimage – Advanced image optimization tool by philipkglass on Friday October 19, 2018 @10:25PM (#18261375)
No. I'm skeptical that it was true then, for reasonable values of "lump."

One lump of coal: 25 grams

(Per https://books.google.com/books?id=HLFJAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA5-PA20&l... )

Annual internet traffic: 122,088,000,000,000 MB in 2008, 1,152,648,000,000,000 MB in 2016

(petabytes per month to megabytes per year: multiply by 1.2 * 10^10)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_traffic

There are 40,000 coal lumps of 25 grams per tonne of coal.

That would put moving-information-across-the-net energy consumption at 3 billion tonnes (3.4 billion short tons) of coal in 2008. That's about 44% of world coal production in 2008.

If it took 1 lump of coal per MB in 2016, that would be about 29 billion tonnes of coal (32 billion short tons), or about 360% of world coal production in 2013 (latest date available).

https://www.indexmundi.com/energy/?product=coal&graph=consum...

Re:Show HN: Optimage – Advanced image optimization tool by orf on Friday October 19, 2018 @09:04PM (#18261123)
Was it ever true?
Re:Show HN: Optimage – Advanced image optimization tool by patrickg_zill on Friday October 19, 2018 @10:06PM (#18261310)
What is the size of one "lump"?