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Re:Ask HN: Why isn't whitelist only email used more often or... by stephenr on Thursday October 18, 2018 @11:20AM (#18249026)
If I have to go to a web page to request access to email you, I'm just not going to email you. That's the part you're missing.

You're asking people to jump through extra hoops to help you.

Re:Ask HN: Why isn't whitelist only email used more often or... by stuntkite on Thursday October 18, 2018 @12:12PM (#18249522)
Then don't email me. I understand that's what I'm asking. That approval process could be built into how we email each other and be very simple and smooth.
Re:Ask HN: Why isn't whitelist only email used more often or... by stephenr on Thursday October 18, 2018 @12:30PM (#18249718)
I think there are better solutions to what you want to achieve.

If S/MIME certs were more readily available you could just spam-filter mail that isn't signed, and use the signer's details to better flag spam automatically.

Re:Ask HN: Why isn't whitelist only email used more often or... by stuntkite on Thursday October 18, 2018 @12:34PM (#18249754)
Interesting.

Why I made this post is to figure out a better solution to what I want to achieve. You proposition here doesn't look like it solves it, but I didn't know about it before. I'll dig into it. If you have any further thoughts, I'd love to hear them.

Re:Ask HN: Why isn't whitelist only email used more often or... by _Schizotypy on Thursday October 18, 2018 @01:59PM (#18250531)
The solution seems pretty simple to me. First sent email is automatically preceded by a request which the receiver can accept or deny. If deny, all incoming communication is blocked, if accepted sender is added to whitelist. No website or separate approval process needed.
Re:Ask HN: Why isn't whitelist only email used more often or... by stephenr on Thursday October 18, 2018 @07:32PM (#18253232)
Why have the initial pre-message then? Why not just have a client that prompts on unknown senders?

Edit: or maybe that’s what you meant?

Re:Ask HN: Why isn't whitelist only email used more often or... by _Schizotypy on Monday October 22, 2018 @12:54PM (#18276249)
Request was just a generic term for asking permission in some way, a client prompt would work. Preferably logged in some fashion.
Re:Ask HN: Why isn't whitelist only email used more often or... by stephenr on Monday October 22, 2018 @01:45PM (#18276675)
I think you could probably do this now with a good enough client and mail processing rules.