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Re:Chinese city to launch man-made moon to light up skies by dsr_ on Thursday October 18, 2018 @10:35AM (#18248625)
Let's do some quick math.

Geosynch is 36,000 Km out.

The Moon's albedo is 0.12.

Let's assume we can get a mirror of albedo 0.96 -- this is a little better than polished silver. It's also conveniently 8 times as reflective as the moon.

The Moon's angular diameter is about 0.5 degrees. To match that angular diameter at 36,000 Km, we need a 5.4 Km wide object.

That doesn't sound like it's within the current state of the art. Maybe in another 10 years?

23 million square meters at 2 g/m^2 (aluminized mylar) is 46,000 Kg -- about two Falcon Heavy trips. That doesn't count any framework or booster or other infrastructure.

Re:Chinese city to launch man-made moon to light up skies by dsr_ on Thursday October 18, 2018 @11:22AM (#18249046)
Ooh. Radiation pressure. 23 million square meters * 8 microN/m^2 = 184 Newtons of thrust away from the Sun. Roughly 1/250 G of acceleration. That doesn't sound like much, but you need to counter it for stationkeeping. It's going to be a big chunk of the mass budget.
Re:Chinese city to launch man-made moon to light up skies by djrogers on Thursday October 18, 2018 @11:17AM (#18249004)
> The Moon's angular diameter is about 0.5 degrees. To match that angular diameter at 36,000 Km, we need a 5.4 Km wide object.

The article doesn’t say it’s going to be as big as the moon - it only says it’ll be 8x brighter. You’re also forgetting about the relative shapes of the objects: the moon, being round, reflects what light it does in all directions, while a designed mirror can be made to reflect it all in one specific direction.

All that said, I don’t think this will work, but not be of your math.

Re:Chinese city to launch man-made moon to light up skies by dsr_ on Thursday October 18, 2018 @11:28AM (#18249106)
8x as much light as the moon is the same angular diameter and 8x more reflectance, or the same reflectance and 8x as much angular diameter. I suppose they could mean "8x as much reflectance but an unknown smaller insolation equivalent", but then they might as well say "we're putting a big spot light on a high-altitude balloon".

The relative sphericity of the moon is nearly immaterial here: when the moon is in full phase, do you see notable dimness around the edges where less sunlight is reflected away from you? Increasing the albedo to a near-perfect mirror cancels it all out.

Re:Chinese city to launch man-made moon to light up skies by rocqua on Thursday October 18, 2018 @11:12AM (#18248961)
Not sure, but it seems to me that for a mirror, more than albedo matter, because mirrors have a specular reflection rather than a diffuse reflection.

Now, reflection won't be perfectly coliminated, but if you assume it is, then the mirror essentially becomes a piece of sun. Since the sun is about 400 000 times as bright as the moon, you'd need to scale the diameter of the sun by sqrt(400 000 / 8) =~ 223. Applying that scaling to your 5.4Km yields about 24m of diameter, which seems waaaay to small to me, so I am probably wrong.

That feels really

Re:Chinese city to launch man-made moon to light up skies by dsr_ on Thursday October 18, 2018 @11:29AM (#18249119)
Not the sun, the sun's irradiance at the distance of the Earth-Moon system.
Re:Chinese city to launch man-made moon to light up skies by solarkraft on Thursday October 18, 2018 @11:42AM (#18249257)
> That doesn't sound like it's within the current state of the art

> about two Falcon Heavy trips

This does sound like it's within the state of the art! The mirror doesn't have to be one solid piece, it can be assembled from many smaller-ish satellites.

Of course you have overhead, so ... 5 Falcon Heavy trips? This is still very fine, if you're willing to put in the money.