TSA announces “biometrics vision for all commercial aviation travelers”

Re:TSA announces “biometrics vision for all commercial aviat... by sailfast on Thursday October 18, 2018 @12:22AM (#18245880)

I could not disagree more. Trading liberty for safety is not something we should ever do. Risk mitigation is different than giving up rights. They can be done at the same time without compromising anything. “No slippery slope...yet” isn’t really a thing you want to rely on.

I am personally furious every time I fly because these rules do little to protect us. I’m glad it is giving someone (you?) some peace I guess, but the cost is too much to bear.

Outside of rights, do you have any idea how much this costs taxpayers and how insanely run that organization is? I’d say it fails many, many rational tests.

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Re:TSA announces “biometrics vision for all commercial aviat... by refurb on Thursday October 18, 2018 @12:39AM (#18245957)

I could not disagree more. Trading liberty for safety is not something we should ever do.

What is your stance on field sobriety testing?

That’s a pretty clear example of trading liberty for safety.

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Re:TSA announces “biometrics vision for all commercial aviat... by marshall007 on Thursday October 18, 2018 @01:25AM (#18246115)

Field sobriety tests are only issued once the officer has probable cause based on suspicion of intoxication. I don't think anyone would disagree that suspicious behavior within an airport warrants detainment and questioning, but in that case no one's liberties are being compromised.

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Re:TSA announces “biometrics vision for all commercial aviat... by FireBeyond on Thursday October 18, 2018 @02:22AM (#18246341)

And in some cases, suspicious behavior has included:

* reading math textbooks while Indian

* wearing a turban

* praying

* talking to spouses in a non-English language

and worse.

So I guess we just disagree on the definition of "suspicious behavior".

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Re:TSA announces “biometrics vision for all commercial aviat... by sneak on Thursday October 18, 2018 @05:31AM (#18247039)

Terry v Ohio makes pretty clear the criterion for detaining someone against their will. Too bad all of our rights go out of the window at airports.

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Re:TSA announces “biometrics vision for all commercial aviat... by eanzenberg on Thursday October 18, 2018 @01:57AM (#18246228)

Trading liberty, as in being searched the 5 min each time you fly is worth the added safety of being stuck in a soeeding metal tube 30k feet in the sky.

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