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Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by nihilistnarluga on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @04:26PM (#18243440)
I don't understand how "_hella_ expected to tip" translates to "you ought to tip". Further, I don't understand why I should take seriously the ethical claim that "one should tip service workers". Why? Why shouldn't we expect the business owner to properly price goods and services such that what I pay reflects the true cost of the labor performed? From where does my ethical commitment to an individual based solely on their occupational sector arise? Why service workers over customer support staff at a call center in India? These ethical claims seem to arise from arbitrary cultural norms.
Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by tptacek on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @04:28PM (#18243468)
Because you know before you partake of the service what the expectations and the normed obligations are, and if you defect by availing yourself of the service and not tipping, you're just harming the worker.
Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by SilasX on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @04:42PM (#18243603)
"Industrywide, about a third of hotel guests leave tips for housekeepers."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/business/hotel-housekeepe...

Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by tptacek on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @05:38PM (#18244056)
Yes, and that sucks.
Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by SilasX on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @06:00PM (#18244241)
Yes, it most certainly does suck for an assertion claiming it's a norm and "hella [sic] expected".