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Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by gamblor956 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @02:53PM (#18242406)
In my neck of the woods, servers make $12/hour. Before tips, because LA no longer lets restaurants rely on tips for wages. (And that's increasing to $15/hour by 2020). So unless service is really good, I default to 10%.

And quite frankly, it's disgusting that the person who spends may 30 seconds providing service gets X% of the bill when 99% of the work is done in the kitchen by guys who don't get paid anything extra.

Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by i88y6 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @02:59PM (#18242493)
> it's disgusting that the person who spends may 30 seconds providing service gets X% of the bill

Yikes,wait till you find out how much the ACH and CC networks get for providing a fully automated service.

Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by gamblor956 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @03:11PM (#18242640)
ACH and CC networks shoulder the burden of maintaining the system, fraud checks, chargebacks, etc. They provide a convenience function that lets me avoid having to carry cash around everyone, and lets the vendor minimize their cash-related costs. It's all worth the 2-5% they charge (and if you're paying more than that you've got bad negotiating skills). Cash isn't cheap--after security-related expenses, it costs just as much if not more than accepting credit cards, but the expenses aren't as easily traced back to individual transactions.

A guy bringing me a plate someone else cooked has not earned 20% of the bill.

Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by i88y6 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @03:25PM (#18242799)
The merchant doesn't need "the system or fraud checks" to sell lattes. Furthermore they get hit with chargebacks, which are a feature offered by the CC, not the coffee shop. You're justying why business A shoulders business B's expense. That's like saying Visa should wipe down the espresso machine.