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Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by jsz0 on Saturday October 23, 2010 @04:57PM (#1824355)
Risky in a legal sense maybe? It seems to me Microsoft has been really trigger shy about pushing forward on integrating all their various services and non-PC products closely with Windows due to their past problems with DOJ/EU. I feel like if they made a big push to integrate things like Zune Pass, Xbox Live integration, Windows Phone, cloud services, Bing search/maps, etc they would have a much more compelling platform. All their competitors are doing it so maybe they now have the cover they need with the DOJ/EU to wrap everything together.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by pohl on Saturday October 23, 2010 @02:57PM (#1824117)
Here's the bit I found most interesting, wherein Steve has a hard time selling the idea that "Windows" is somehow the same whether it's the Windows 7 variant on the HP pad or a WP7 phone. The interviewer wanted to know if the latter was coming to tablets, but Ballmer didn't pick up on that or tried to deflect the implicit fragmentation question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKB8XEXm3Oo#t=2m54s

Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by thought_alarm on Saturday October 23, 2010 @03:56PM (#1824242)
I thought Scoble's take on this was actually kind of interesting.

http://scobleizer.com/2010/10/22/starbucks-cio-shows-why-nex...

Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by PlanetFunk on Sunday October 24, 2010 @11:47PM (#1828426)
Slightly off-topic, but my ultimate device is something like a smart phone that can dock into different "stations" (think desktop, laptop, tablet) and utilise that stations peripherals (screen, mouse, keyboard, etc).

Ignoring the fantasy hardware, an OS that could handle that would be mind blowing.

Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by moserware on Saturday October 23, 2010 @02:45PM (#1824085)
No real content here. Perhaps we'll learn more on Thursday at microsoftpdc.com
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by levesque on Saturday October 23, 2010 @02:38PM (#1824066)
Off topic: Is Steve Ballmer supposed to be a good speaker? He sounds arrogant to me.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by chaosmachine on Saturday October 23, 2010 @02:51PM (#1824095)
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Steve Ballmer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc

Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by citricsquid on Saturday October 23, 2010 @02:54PM (#1824106)
That's it, I'm sticking with Windows for life.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by levesque on Saturday October 23, 2010 @02:56PM (#1824113)
Wow, this was... unexpected.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by Keyframe on Saturday October 23, 2010 @03:29PM (#1824186)
He's a party dude at college that everybody knows. Eccentric and likable. Impulsive, yet benign (I don't want to say simple on purpose).
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by raganwald on Saturday October 23, 2010 @09:15PM (#1824873)
As a foreigner unfamiliar with US fraternity culture, may I ask: How does he differ from George W. Bush in that respect?
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by Keyframe on Saturday October 23, 2010 @11:39PM (#1825130)
I'm not from US either - replace college with school, college. And to answer your question, it doesn't differ, personality-wise.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by mahmud on Saturday October 23, 2010 @11:21PM (#1825098)
Ballmer is competent enough to manage a gas station.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by josephcooney on Sunday October 24, 2010 @12:05AM (#1825163)
He's the party dude that graduated magna cum laude from Harvard with a B.A. in mathematics and economics.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by forgottenpaswrd on Saturday October 23, 2010 @03:32PM (#1824191)
Extremely arrogant to me. I didn't knew this face, I would despise having a boss like him.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by mikepurvis on Saturday October 23, 2010 @07:22PM (#1824628)
I dunno. I'm kind of having a flashback to the 2003 Longhorn video. Wasn't that kind of the same message, promising all the risky and exciting things that were in a release mere months away?
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by marcamillion on Saturday October 23, 2010 @10:12PM (#1824972)
Hrmm...people still listen to Balmer? As far as I am concerned, Microsoft would be in the exact same position today (or maybe even better off) if there was no one in top spot.

It has become a well-oiled machine that can just continue churning out Windows & Office versions.

There will be no one to drive new product innovation, granted, but there is no one there right now either.

Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by jchonphoenix on Sunday October 24, 2010 @01:23PM (#1826592)
His argument that Windows is no longer a game changer seems somewhat faulty.

He claims Apple has impact because they decided not to support flash, so he is now moving Starbucks to HTML5.

But if Microsoft decided to not support HTML5, would he still be using HTML5? I personally would still hedge my bets with more people using Windows than Macs.

Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by jeffreymcmanus on Sunday October 24, 2010 @08:38PM (#1827876)
Microsoft has never released a new version of Windows without referring to it as a "bet-the-company" release. This includes Vista. Just because they say it, doesn't mean it's true -- in fact it's probably never actually been true.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by okeumeni on Saturday October 23, 2010 @02:44PM (#1824081)
Why Windows 8 we have barely used 7?
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by ugh on Saturday October 23, 2010 @04:55PM (#1824352)

   1985:      Windows 1.0
   1987:      Windows 2.0
   1990:      Windows 3.0
  (1992:      Windows 3.1)
   1995:      Windows 95
   1998:      Windows 98
  (2000:      Windows ME)
   2001:      Windows XP
   2006/2007: Windows Vista
   2009:      Windows 7
   2012:      Windows 8
Nothing out of the ordinary.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by Ocho-Bits on Saturday October 23, 2010 @04:18PM (#1824286)
Windows usually has a three year cicle. Vista stopped this mostly because of the development hell that it was.
Re:Windows 8 will be Microsoft's 'riskiest product bet' by zsouthboy on Saturday October 23, 2010 @09:35PM (#1824907)
My favorite part is where they threw it all out, reset to 2003 codebase, and started from scratch basically, 18ish months before release.[1]

So from a technical standpoint, Vista took longer [5 years] and had less development time [under 2 years] actually make it into the product. (Yes, code they already had they could and did reincorporate into the final product, but still, wow.)

[1] http://blogs.msdn.com/b/michkap/archive/2005/10/16/481625.as...

This post is full of snark by the way, but it is useful to know what went wrong with Vista. (TL;DR: Management of very large software development is _hard_)