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Re:Our Solar System Is Even Stranger Than We Thought by kamaal on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @09:48AM (#18238873)
All asteroid crashes aren't equal. Earth got most of its water from an asteroid crash.

Basically a huge of range of things have to work on large timescales for intelligent life to evolve on a planet.

Which is why intelligent life apart from us could just be absent or very very rare and far away.

Re:Our Solar System Is Even Stranger Than We Thought by celrod on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @10:00AM (#18239050)
The article discusses an "oligarch" model of planet formation, where there are roughly early sized and spaced oligarchs early on in planet development.

Because our solar system didn't end up with the "peas in a pod" pattern, planet formation they also posited a period of violent collisions that stirred things up. Wild, uneducated, and necessarily oversimplifying speculation: perhaps all these early collisions brought water which helped encourage development of life, and led to the formation of Jupiter, which then protected that life's development.

Re:Our Solar System Is Even Stranger Than We Thought by 0-_-0 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @10:20AM (#18239297)
My point is that a large planet in the system reduces the probability of large asteroid impacts later in a star system's history. I didn't mean that it immediately removes all asteroids from a star system after forming.
Re:Our Solar System Is Even Stranger Than We Thought by kamaal on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:23AM (#18239960)
True, but you need water rich asteroids to crash in the immediate phases after planet formation, and then you need life to develop. After which you need asteroids to not crash into the planet. Of course in the meanwhile, you need a lot of other things like formation of atmosphere, plate tectonics, volcanic eruptions, lakes sitting on geysers etc etc.

Basically things have to (not) happen in a series of steps for life to form, even if other things like a rocky planet being situated in the goldilock zone come true. This is apart from a lot of other factors, like not having a big sun etc etc.

All this suggests even if we consider 'Terrestrial mediocrity' to be true. Life could just very very rare across the universe, if not totally absent.

Re:Our Solar System Is Even Stranger Than We Thought by hypothete on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @10:45AM (#18239569)
The "Jupiter as a shield" hypothesis has been questioned recently: https://phys.org/news/2016-02-jupiter-role-planetary-shield-...
Re:Our Solar System Is Even Stranger Than We Thought by 0-_-0 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:55AM (#18240270)
That's fair enough, the point I tried to make is: Statistically, we would expect our solar system to be average among solar systems that can support intelligent life, not among all solar systems (following the Anthropic Principle). Therefore, the difference we see between our solar system and the average star system might imply something about what kind of conditions make intelligent life more probable in a star system.

If we see that in all star systems we know that evolved intelligent life (even if there's only 1 we know of) there is a large Jupiter-like planet, and that's very atypical among star systems, that suggests that Jupiter might have increased the probability that intelligent life evolved here.