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Re:Show HN: How to start a business in France by saiya-jin on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @04:58AM (#18237349)
There is no concept of indirect salary I am aware of. Do you mean that medical insurance is paid straight out of your salary to the state? This is a huge benefit to US, but only US - all european countries apart from Switzerland have this, and many other palces around the world too.

Or you mean social insurance? Same story, you pay it from the money your employer pays you, its just that you don't do it by yourself - company ha to do it for you by law.

Re:Show HN: How to start a business in France by realusername on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @05:29AM (#18237497)
They also created a calculator if you speak French: https://embauche.beta.gouv.fr/. So the employer also pays the retirement, health insurance, unemployment benefits, work accidents and family benefits.
Re:Show HN: How to start a business in France by saiya-jin on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @10:15AM (#18239231)
It's a big fat lie that employer pays anything - employee pays it all, from money employer is willing to pay him/her for work done. No matter how we wrap the facts, this won't change. It doesn't matter that its taken away before it reaches your account.

I understand the motivation - people would be properly pissed off if they realized state is taking 50-70% of their income prior to letting them get the rest. And then they are taxed more with VAT, housing, fuel etc. Of course there are services given back, in some cases very substantial and helpful (and in some cases very wasteful and useless), but never forget the fact that you pay for it with most of your income, like it or not.