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Re:The History of Sears Predicts Nearly Everything Amazon Is... by Spooky23 on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @08:48AM (#18228896)
I'd disagree. Prodigy was always GUI based and pioneered the banner ad, and provided a good template for how online shopping would work. IMO the problem was that the scale wasn't there, shipping sucked and computers weren't prevalent. This was the era of the $5,000 PC.

The other problem was that the venture partners were big old companies getting wrecked by modern management. You IBM, who was on the verge of its first big implosion and Sears, who didn't understand the value of the catalog.

The old walled gardens withered, time will tell if the Google/Facebook/etc of today devolve into AOL/Prodigy 30 years later.

Re:The History of Sears Predicts Nearly Everything Amazon Is... by ghaff on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @09:52AM (#18229345)
Except for an almost vanishingly small number of users, everything was more or less a walled garden at the time including your local BBS system.

My recollection of Prodigy was that it focused on a GUI when screen resolution and connection speeds weren't really up to it. It tried to be a more mass market commercial system but neither the technology infrastructure nor the user base were really there.

It's a tempting narrative to focus on Sears' failure because of their catalog. But, truth be told, the Sears catalog hadn't been a thing for the vast majority of Americans for decades. In the mid-nineties Sears was mostly an appliance and hardware store (with a bit of an identity crisis) at a time when the big box home improvement and discount stores were starting to get big.

It's somewhat fair to say that Sears could have been Amazon while taking advantage of their retail footprint. But I'm not sure that Sears was special in this regard compared to any other of the big retail chains (none of which were oriented toward the way Amazon entered the market with books and then digital media).

Re:The History of Sears Predicts Nearly Everything Amazon Is... by Spooky23 on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @10:09AM (#18229487)
My family had a shared summer home in an area with almost no stores save for the Sears Catalog store, so I was someone exposed to it more than was typical in the 80s.

The company itself had a dumb bureaucratic culture. They didn’t take credit cards for years, etc. See: https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/26/business/sears-eliminatin...

But they built a last mile infrastructure that was amazing for the time and didn’t exist until Amazon prime. They also had a small parts distribution capabilty for repairs.

To me it’s always been a interesting “what could have been”, but also an example of how much more efficient and effective a modern enterprise like Amazon is.

Re:The History of Sears Predicts Nearly Everything Amazon Is... by ghaff on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @10:36AM (#18229691)
That's fair enough. Even pre-Amazon, it's absolutely fair to say that they could have been Walmart at least.
Re:The History of Sears Predicts Nearly Everything Amazon Is... by hakfoo on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @10:06PM (#18235372)
A major problem with Prodigy was that it didn't transition well to the Windows 3.1/95 ecosystem.

Their custom graphics were a good plan for making use of a 2400bps connection, but they screamed EGA. I suspect they had to develop a lot of GUI features from scratch.

The result was that the Prodigy package looked like running a DOS package in a window, while AOL looked and felt like a native package.

I also suspect it did them no benefits that you got an assigned and largely illegible email address by default-- you didn't see people clinging to their [email protected] addresses the way they kept their [email protected] ones.