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Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by Locke1689 on Friday October 22, 2010 @11:50PM (#1822558)
Everything wikileaks does is not Hacker News. This is just "news."
Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by babeKnuth on Saturday October 23, 2010 @06:14AM (#1823145)
everything wikileaks has done is not only more "news" than hacker news, but also more "hacker" than hacker news.
Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by Locke1689 on Saturday October 23, 2010 @07:06AM (#1823226)
That's a pretty worthless comment if you don't have justification for either of those two points.

I see you haven't been here long, though, and your karma seems to be reflecting that you don't really get HN yet, so if you're just trolling you can ignore this comment.

Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by babeKnuth on Saturday October 23, 2010 @03:53PM (#1824233)
i'm not sure what you mean by "worthless". it's just taking the two terms and going by their def'n. seems fairly obvious.

news - wikileaks provides information to the public

hacker - ummmmm, i'd have to ask you what your def'n is here. this is just fairly obvious. a lot of their data is acquired through electronic means.

p.s. i don't post often (not much time), and i've been here quite a while. my karma is due to one comment making a digital underground reference not many people got (look it up). that's all irrelevant tho (only people with X karma and X years on hn are qualified to post?).

Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by Locke1689 on Sunday October 24, 2010 @01:01AM (#1825259)
hacker - ummmmm, i'd have to ask you what your def'n is here. this is just fairly obvious. a lot of their data is acquired through electronic means.

My definition certainly doesn't end at "uses electronics."

Today I turned on a light. Should I describe the contents of my room? It was information gathered through electronic means.

Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by babeKnuth on Saturday October 23, 2010 @03:59PM (#1824249)
also, from hn guidelines http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

"When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. E.g. "That is an idiotic thing to say; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3.""

so i guess you don't get hn either....

Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by Locke1689 on Sunday October 24, 2010 @01:04AM (#1825268)
My annoyance may have gotten the better of me, but I stand by my claim that your post essentially boiled down to "nu-uh, it totally does!" Pointing out that you need to make an actual argument to convince people doesn't seem outrageous to me.

As far as calling names was concerned, I actually suspected that you were just trolling me.

Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by babeKnuth on Monday October 25, 2010 @12:25AM (#1828531)
no prob. wasn't trolling. apologies for the pithy comment if it came across as such.

main point was that wikileaks, for me, provides much more insight/info/"bootstrapping-a-new-source-of-news" than most of the stuff i see on hn. hence, i'd rather keep it's presence on here than have it removed. (again, it might only be me that's interested in such things, but judging from some of the comments, it looks like i'm not alone).

whether you agree or disagree with the tone/perspective of wikileaks, they are a resource of information that is "changing the industry" (or whatever hollow cliche is usually spouted up by VCs/investors). hence by either interpretation of "hacker news" (either strictly an entrepreneurial/start-up resource or something akin to 2600), their activities/approaches can be insightful to some of us.

Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by fbcocq on Saturday October 23, 2010 @04:04AM (#1822963)
Actually, the fact that it's obviously important that the people, who administer and have access to your IT infrastructure, think what you're doing is legal and moral, is rather interesting.

Ignoring the content of these files for a while, it seems to me that nobody is too concerned with the fact that the US government managed to lose 400.000 secret documents and what implications this might have for future conflicts.

Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by Locke1689 on Saturday October 23, 2010 @04:56AM (#1823024)
Right -- but there's a lot of important stuff that isn't Hacker News. Just because it affects people doesn't make it Hacker News and just because it involves the Internet definitely doesn't make it Hacker News.
Re:Wikileaks dumps 400,000 more files by babeKnuth on Monday October 25, 2010 @12:38AM (#1828567)
see my reply above for hopeful clarification on how wikileaks is different from your typical "important stuff".

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1828531