Re:The Electric Chair That Might Soon Be Used in Tennessee
by JoeAltmaier on Sunday October 14, 2018 @07:11PM
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Agreed. But the death penalty still has the property that it avoids recidivism completely. Which is a deterrent of sorts.
Re:The Electric Chair That Might Soon Be Used in Tennessee
by copperx on Sunday October 14, 2018 @07:32PM
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Life imprisonment avoids recidivism completely too. At least on the civilian population.
Re:The Electric Chair That Might Soon Be Used in Tennessee
by mikeash on Sunday October 14, 2018 @07:37PM
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So does a life sentence.
Re:The Electric Chair That Might Soon Be Used in Tennessee
by bodas on Sunday October 14, 2018 @07:24PM
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That's what I was saying. The death penalty is about making a violent example of someone (regardless of whether it is effective). A compassionate execution is a failed execution because it fails to make the statement that was the point of the exercise.
Re:The Electric Chair That Might Soon Be Used in Tennessee
by int_19h on Sunday October 14, 2018 @07:42PM
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That's only one of the possible takes on death penalty. Another one is that it permanently removes a threat from society (life sentence doesn't, because the prisoner can still escape).
In practice, though, it seems that most people who support death penalty do see it as a punishment intended mainly for deterrence, and what they refer to as "justice" (i.e. cathartic vengeance - "torturing someone who made me feel bad makes me feel good").
Re:The Electric Chair That Might Soon Be Used in Tennessee
by SamReidHughes on Sunday October 14, 2018 @07:57PM
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It also serves as a form of expression about your values.
Re:The Electric Chair That Might Soon Be Used in Tennessee
by URSpider94 on Sunday October 14, 2018 @07:40PM
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That just doesn’t align with modern legal thinking.
My understanding of the death penalty is that it is intended as violent punishment and is done gruesomely for the purposes of revenge. Read any thread online about a bad crime and you will see mobs of people calling for violent, public murders of the accused. It's human nature for a lot of people and something I think a civilized nation would immediately outlaw, especially ones that pride themselves on not doing "cruel and unusual punishment". I remember reading that the death penalty in the US doesn't fall under that category merely because of the 'and' clause and the relatively common nature of gruesome murders by the State in the US.
[citations]. It seems that states without the death penalty have lower murder rates, suggesting the opposite forces are true compared to your post (edit: i.e, it might even mean that a place with state-sanctioned/performed murder is more likely to have murders).
https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death...