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Re:Thoughts on Microsoft Joining OIN's Patent Non-Aggression... by Timothycquinn on Saturday October 13, 2018 @02:52PM (#18209409)
IMHO, a party that owns or invents a patent that it does not use and never intends to use in any real products and they only litigate with said patent makes it a true patent troll.
Re:Thoughts on Microsoft Joining OIN's Patent Non-Aggression... by rayiner on Saturday October 13, 2018 @05:30PM (#18210121)
Leaving aside the desirability of software patents, the "real products" element is not a useful way to define who is a "troll." Economically, one of the functions of the patent system is that it allows specialization and division of labor. It allows you to take the results of R&D efforts and wrap it up into a property right that can be the subject of market transactions. ARM doesn't make CPUs; it sells IP that a wide variety of companies can incorporate into "real products." ARM's expertise is in CPU design. It's economically efficient to let it focus on that, instead of forcing it and every other R&D house to also master manufacturing, supply chain, etc.

(I'd also posit that this is a good thing for consumers because it is a force pushing back against vertical integration. In the long run, I think it'll turn out to be a bad thing for consumers that the market is moving from ARM supplying IP to dozens of manufacturers, to a handful of companies with like Apple and Samsung moving CPU design in-house within a vertically-integrated supply chain.)

Re:Thoughts on Microsoft Joining OIN's Patent Non-Aggression... by harryh on Saturday October 13, 2018 @07:56PM (#18210628)
ARM has a product though. Just because that product isn't sold directly to consumers doesn't mean that it isn't selling products.

I actually somewhat agree with Timothycquinn. Companies that make all of their money from suing people are, at the very least, suspicious.

Re:Thoughts on Microsoft Joining OIN's Patent Non-Aggression... by tomnipotent on Saturday October 13, 2018 @06:34PM (#18210382)
ARM is a great example, thank you for pointing it out. Wasn't aware they didn't manufacture anything themselves but the benefit of their utility is pretty obvious.