Re:A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university
by hunter2_ on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @07:15PM
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If a (insert centralized service here) friend tells me about a change of plans, and I know that messages with that contact were successful in the past, then plans indeed changed because it's spoof-proof so long as you didn't make friends with two accounts that end up sharing a name and so long as the sender didn't fall victim to phishing of creds.
If an email from a contact comes in, the from/sender headers can be spoofed without anyone having fallen victim yet, so maybe plans didn't really change.
Yes there are social aspects but there is also this plainly technical aspect.
Re:A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university
by na85 on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @07:49PM
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All you've done is moved the problem from your organization to theirs.
Phishing can still pwn you.
Re:A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university
by hunter2_ on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @11:37PM
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True, but making credential theft a prerequisite is helpful.
Re:A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university
by scott_s on Thursday October 11, 2018 @09:21AM
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Yes, the problem is people on the paying side not realizing that payment change requests are fraudulent. So a better process removes people on the paying side routinely changing payment information. Require that payees sign into a separate service and they change the payment information themselves.
Re:A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university
by na85 on Thursday October 11, 2018 @10:35AM
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Again I think that just slapping a new service in there doesn't address the fundamental problem which is that the university did not conduct sufficient verification of payment details before sending out 12 million dollars.
All it would have taken is a phone call to the company's accounting department confirming the change.
"Verification of changes to banking details as a service" is not the answer. It's a Band-Aid solution.
Re:A fraudster got $12M out of a Canadian university
by scott_s on Thursday October 11, 2018 @10:53AM
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And my perspective is that as long as you have a process where administrative staff are making the changes, they will cut corners. For them, these transfers are routine. They do dozens every month. You need a process which removes them from the loop.
Running their invoices through SAP or having gpg signed pdf invoices or using more node.js would not help because all of those solutions fail to address the fact that people are dumb and need to be trained to avoid scams.