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Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by colechristensen on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @02:51PM (#18187795)
>feel rebellious and anti-establishment

I wonder what this is and why it is so prevalent (and maybe how it made our species/specific cultures successful).

You can list a large number of groups that wrap up their identity and value systems around being opposed to or having knowledge that counters their perception of "the majority". It is both incredibly attractive and a way to signal your value by going against the grain in some way or another, in some field or another.

Some philosopher/pyschologist/neurologist/evolutionary biologist could probably do a very compelling analysis about the human need to rebel or obey.

One of the societal ills of the 21st century is that we're running out of big clear cut things to rebel against but are continuing to rebel with the same intensity while directing it somewhat aimlessly all over the place, and now mostly just at each other's rebellion itself. Political parties in America these days are less anchored in particular issues and more about believing strongly in something your opponent is against and making sure your team wins.

Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by joe_the_user on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @03:44PM (#18188223)
"One of the societal ills of the 21st century is that we're running out of big clear cut things to rebel against but are continuing to rebel with the same intensity while directing it somewhat aimlessly all over the place, and now mostly just at each other's rebellion itself."

Yeah but the key phrase is clear cut. We have plenty of big institutions and one can see them do terrible things. It's just they fade into each and so challenging a single one becomes a dubious interest. Health care is a mess but blaming say, insurance companies in particular, is problematic. The environment and global warming are huge problems but blaming single institutions misses the point, etc.

Moreover, large institutions are adept at harnessing issues-as-social-signal and directing them according to their interests. One can fight all this but such a fight doesn't follow the path of least resistance. And boy, are people trained, today, to follow that path, whether in rebellion or conformity.

Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by cirgue on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @07:30PM (#18189848)
> Health care is a mess but blaming say, insurance companies in particular, is problematic.

I think this attitude is the key problem: fuck blame. Seriously, who cares? There absolutely are concrete things we can do about healthcare and climate change and so on, but not if we collectively think that blaming this or that institution is going to motivate people to fix the problem.

Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by whatshisface on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @09:51PM (#18190501)
Someone has to pay for any change that happens - for example if a company is dumping toxic waste into the environment, $100M is going to be lost from their pockets if they have to stop (cleanup + price of proper disposal). That $100M could come from anywhere in the economy, so unless you want Amazon warehouse workers to start paying in to an industrial waste disposal subsidy system you better start constructing arguments that look something like, "the perpetrator should pay to clean it up."
Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by colechristensen on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @04:49PM (#18188742)
What we have are complex problems instead of simple ones.

For example, slavery up to 150 years ago vs. segregation up to 50 years ago vs. subtle often unconscious racism today.+ Fighting to abolish slavery is a lot simpler than fighting for racial equality. It is not that there are not problems, but there are not so many obvious problems with obvious solutions today.

+ I'm trying to make a broad point here not perfectly depict the history of racism in America, forgive any unjust implications

Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by joe_the_user on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @06:05PM (#18189343)
Stopping global warming seems very simple - just limit C02 production. The main thing is institutions are complex and so even simple change requires complex processes.
Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by colechristensen on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @06:30PM (#18189516)
I would strongly disagree that any plan to limit CO2 production would be simple.
Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by everdrive on Thursday October 11, 2018 @07:46AM (#18192657)
The good news here is we're all going to find out very soon just how hard it might be.
Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by sjg007 on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @11:29PM (#18190807)
Simplest are carbon credits.
Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by mywittyname on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @03:56PM (#18188314)
Being intelligent is the most prized human trait, so being seen as "stupid" hurts our egos really bad.

Being contrarian in this manner is proof that you're smarter than everyone else, plus you get to take a jab at the pretend smarty-pantses. I bet this same effect is why political opinions are so difficult to change.

Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by cubano on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @04:44PM (#18188694)
It probably as simple as it helps your chance of getting laid a small bit by being the archetypal "rebel" as the opposite sex like a vicarious thrill.
Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by johnzhou on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @03:28PM (#18188076)
"I rebel — therefore we exist." - Albert Camus
Re:Why Is Behavioral Economics So Popular? by freshhawk on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @05:32PM (#18189112)
"we're running out of big clear cut things to rebel against"

Or we're getting much better at the PR processes that muddy up any public discussion of problems and you lack the history education to know how rare actual clear cut historical political problems were.

Do you really think it is more likely that everyone else is virtue signaling than that you have a status quo bias from living in a culture that pushes that message (and I'm guessing you are quite successful as well?).

When has the majority been right about any complex issue anyway? What a bunch of reactionary anti-intellectual nonsense.