Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias against women

Re:Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias ... by petsormeat on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @12:31PM (#18186428)

Oh, there are a bunch of us, even here in the SF Bay Area. Trouble is, we're older than 35, or don't have degrees from "top" schools, and/or don't have the "passion" for bizarre extended hiring rituals. I could staff an entire dev team with non-male people within a week.

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Re:Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias ... by openbasic on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @02:57PM (#18187848)

> we're older than 35, or don't have degrees from "top" schools, and/or don't have the "passion" for bizarre extended hiring rituals

This hits home so hard.

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Re:Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias ... by jhfhhhf on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @03:43PM (#18188209)

So what do you do now? Btw some men in tech are also over 35 and tired of hiring rituals.

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Re:Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias ... by petsormeat on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @05:44PM (#18189177)

After 15 years of front-end dev, I now work in retail. Some of my other peers are scraping by with Uber/Lyft. Some are muddling through as housewives or substitute teaching.

And, yes, Bay Area tech hiring is needlessly hostile for men over a certain age as well.

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Re:Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias ... by jhfhhhf on Thursday October 11, 2018 @08:27AM (#18192896)

Ageism, OK - but still I find it hard to believe that you can't find a job if you can code. Maybe competition or demands are especially high in the Bay area?

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Re:Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias ... by hamandcheese on Thursday October 11, 2018 @12:35AM (#18190999)

I’m a bit confused... surely going through a needlessly bizarre hiring ritual is worth it compared to driving for Uber or being a substitute teacher?

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Re:Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias ... by macinjosh on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @12:46PM (#18186593)

I don't have any sort of degree beyond high school and I have been a programmer/engineer for almost 15 years. Do I work at top tech companies? No. But that doesn't mean people like us can't be hired in the industry.

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Re:Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias ... by blub on Thursday October 11, 2018 @02:30AM (#18191344)

SW engineering can be a pretty brutal job psychologically - there's a reason people are burning out. Interviewing is particularly bad.

I guess most men have thick skin or got lucky, so they don't see that, instead they think it's this dream job and everyone should partake in its wonderfulness.

I believe that the lack of women in tech is explained by societal bias against women and the nature of the job.

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Re:Amazon scraps secret AI recruiting tool that showed bias ... by hamandcheese on Thursday October 11, 2018 @12:40AM (#18191006)

> I could staff an entire dev team with non-male people within a week.

I think the recruiting team at my company would very much be interested in speaking with you.

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