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Re:Microsoft Joins the Open Invention Network by partycoder on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @12:22PM (#18186342)
> The 90s called, they want their tired old meme back.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/06/02/ballmer_linux_is_a_... (2001)

https://youtu.be/86j8zOsmNFE?t=62 (2003)

> - They're now, or soon will be, the largest supporter of free infrastructure for open source projects on the planet (GitHub)

That's actually a bad thing. Open source needs resiliency and decentralization.

> - They've contributed more than 1700 changes to the Linux kernel that can easily be identified with a quick 'git log --grep'

A lot of that is so it can run better on Azure.

> - They're a platinum member of the Linux Foundation. In other words, they pay Torvalds salary

Torvalds' work provides them with more revenue than whatever they are paying the Linux foundation.

Not only revenue on Azure, but they also collect billions of dollars from phone manufacturers using Linux.

> What more do you want?

We want people on Microsoft's payroll to stop making noise on Hacker News.

We don't trust you. Cheap gifts won't make up for decades of bullshit. Bullshit that comes back each time someone suggests me to use MS Office, the ultimate embodiment of software monopolism.

Re:Microsoft Joins the Open Invention Network by svick on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @12:50PM (#18186630)
> We want people on Microsoft's payroll to stop making noise on Hacker News.

In other words, you're saying it doesn't matter what they do, you've already made up your mind. And just to be sure, you don't want to hear anything that would contradict your opinion. Did I get that right?

Re:Microsoft Joins the Open Invention Network by linuxftw on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @01:08PM (#18186843)
> you don't want to hear anything that would contradict your opinion

Yes, because they don't garner any trust as an organization. They are merely courting today's developers which have voted wholesale to adopt other platforms instead of MS.

If MS releases their operating system under the GPL, I'll change my tune. Until then, it's all marketing and PR hype.

Re:Microsoft Joins the Open Invention Network by partycoder on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @01:57PM (#18187347)
That is right. It does not matter what they do because they made their wealth in quasilegal ways and they should not exist in 2018.

Their PR stunts are just a distraction, and all the happy foundation shit is likely all tax deductible anyways.

It does not matter that happy guy Satya is CEO, Bill Gates is still on the board and got away with all.

If a guy robs a bank then donates 1% of the money to charity, it doesn't change the fact that guy robbed a bank.

Re:Microsoft Joins the Open Invention Network by _wmd on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @12:36PM (#18186491)
I love people like this, and there are so many on this thread. They have survived for so long on communal aphorisms without ever doing any homework of their own, that they cannot comprehend anyone would ever write something positive about Microsoft without having been paid by them.

Ignoring the personal attack (the second I've received on this thread - no greater indicator of the quality of 'discourse' when it regresses to ad hominem), you almost managed to make one good point - the Linux commits are indeed mostly related to Azure and SMB.

Re:Microsoft Joins the Open Invention Network by partycoder on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @05:15PM (#18188963)
Putting the ineffective sarcasm and nonsense aside, let me ask you one thing:

Why do you act against your own self-interest?