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Re:DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon System... by outworlder on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @02:14PM (#18178412)
I too toured the boat.

> The windshield wipers on all Ospreys (those dank helicopter/plane things, think Ghost in the Shell) have been disabled/removed because their motors would catch fire in inaccessible places near the pilot's feet.

Well, this is not related to the main point about cyber security. If true, it's just a piece of equipment that was found to be flawed. It is a non-essential system that was made INOP.

The Osprey is a marvelous piece of engineering that is difficult to replicate by other nations.

> Every system runs on the same network. This includes radar, weapons systems, anti-air, emergency comms, in-ship cameras...

Physical network or logical network?

> The only thing preventing access to a boat's network is standing orders and the threat of punishment. You can just plug right in.

And then do what once you are in? Unless we are assuming there is zero security, this doesn't mean much. Besides, you have to be on the ship already.

I'm not saying that the systems are adequately protected, they may not (as the article states), but there's too much information missing for us to play the role of security auditors.

Re:DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon System... by whatshisface on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @02:31PM (#18178577)
>Well, this is not related to the main point about cyber security.

It's a testament to the attitude and quality control practices of the suppliers who also supply the networked equipment.

Re:DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon System... by maxxxxx on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @04:18PM (#18179472)
"The Osprey is a marvelous piece of engineering that is difficult to replicate by other nations."

Whatever I have heard about the Osprey nobody should want to replicate it. Too expensive, too complex.

Re:DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon System... by wongarsu on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @11:14PM (#18181692)
>Besides, you have to be on the ship already.

That's a problem if you just encounter the ship on open sea, but if you anticipate a conflict it shouldn't be hard to turn one of the literally thousand people crewing the ship. Just find one person who you can force/incentivize to plug an LTE enabled network device in and start hacking from a safe distance (bring your own LTE base station for hacking on open sea).

Re:DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon System... by nradov on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @08:11PM (#18180894)
The Osprey is shit engineering. It can't even fly in a dust cloud, which makes it essentially useless for one of its main intended missions.

https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-v-22-can-t-spend-even-o...

Re:DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon System... by rasz on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @08:06AM (#18184031)
>And then do what once you are in?

"Running a port scan caused the weapons system to fail"

Re:DOD Just Beginning to Grapple with Scale of Weapon System... by forapurpose on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @05:39PM (#18180028)
Good points, but physical access is a fundamental of security, and for good reason.