Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on China

Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by codezero on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @01:45PM (#18178139)

If I were to rationalize this, it would be that the App Store is a platform that Apple hosts and curates. Google indexes content that Google does not host or curate outside of responding algorithmically to specific input.

I do think if Google hadn't left, it would probably have been more normalized by now.

I think I'd be a lot more critical of Apple if, for example, the Chinese government got a special ability to unlock iDevices, if they already have this, I'm not well informed, so feel free to let me know.

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Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by joshuamorton on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @02:53PM (#18178784)

Its pretty widely believed that the Chinese government can and has accessed Chinese Citizens' iCloud accounts before [1]. (I work at Google).

[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/18/17587304/apple-icloud-chi...

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Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by xvector on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @07:42PM (#18180756)

Quite a bit of data in iCloud is E2E encrypted with device-based Secure Enclave. This doesn't seem like much of an issue.

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Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by cromwellian on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @12:42AM (#18182008)

Outside of China yes. If China is asking people to install Jingwangweishi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingwang_Weishi) under threat of fine or jail on Android devices, why do you think they would allow a simple, legal workaround to be "Just buy an iPhone!"

That is, China sets up elaborate domestic surveillance, deep packet inspection everywhere, asks citizens to install apps which backdoors their phones to scanning and logging, and all you need to do to thwart it is buy an Apple device? Does that sound like something they would willingly permit?

That would be like the US congress passing a law requiring Key Escrow, and every device manufacturer on the market complying, but if you just buy a Xiaomi phone, you can bypass it.

How likely do you think there's no special alteration to how iCloud encryption works in China?

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Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by glenrivard on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @04:00PM (#18179350)

Why Amnesty International is upset with Apple and the human rights abused with giving the data to the government.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/02/5-things-you-... When Profits Threaten Privacy – 5 Things You Need to Know about ...

But also removing the VPN software.

https://www.ft.com/content/ad42e536-cf36-11e7-b781-794ce08b2... Apple drops hundreds of VPN apps at Beijing's request

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