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Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by commandlinefan on Monday October 08, 2018 @03:38PM (#18170616)
> someone who really gave a damn got their hands dirty

Although this person is the hero of the story, I feel obligated to point out that in today's JIRA-driven "what have you done for me lately" close-the-stories what's-your-velocity we're-about-to-downsize-so-you'd-better-prove-you're-valuable culture of "efficiency", the person who did this either had a LOT of job security (as in, compromising photos of the CEO in a public bathhouse job security) or did this on their own time while spending their "working hours" closing tickets and attending conference calls.

Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by lkbm on Monday October 08, 2018 @03:49PM (#18170722)
Or they work in a sane company that values individuals taking initiative?

Okay, maybe not a sane company, given the story, but there are plenty of places without the toxic culture you describe above.

Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by commandlinefan on Monday October 08, 2018 @04:48PM (#18171181)
You mean a company whose management can tell the difference between working on something complex and not working at all? Sadly, very few exist, and those end up being bought by the evil kind.
Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by burkaman on Monday October 08, 2018 @06:02PM (#18171717)
You really need to find a new job. I don't know anyone who works for a company like you describe. Just ask questions like "How long have you worked here?" and "How do you handle tasks that run over their time estimates?" during interviews.
Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by bartread on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @03:47AM (#18174034)
I did 8 months contracting for $large_uk_enterprise and it was exactly like that. I tolerated it for so long because the money was good and I thought I might be able to learn some useful lessons.

I got told off more than once for showing initiative and pushing something forward that wasn't on the approved list for the sprint even though I had time and there wasn't anything left to pick up.

Yes, mobbing fans, I know, I could have jumped in on a story that already had people working on it. This is what management there said to me as well.

Nevertheless I'm rather old fashioned so I have two comments to make:

1) Too many cooks... etc.

2) Adding more people to a project/story that's not going to deliver on time will only make it later. (Here I'm obviously paraphrasing Fred Brooks.) And if it's going to deliver on time then why add more people instead of enabling those people to work on something else that's useful?

In the end I gave notice without any plan about what to do next but had three opportunities lined up before I'd worked my notice period and have been much happier since.

Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by twojerbs on Monday October 08, 2018 @06:18PM (#18171810)
I have two full-time jobs like he described
Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by burkaman on Monday October 08, 2018 @07:54PM (#18172296)
Why?
Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by twojerbs on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @11:57AM (#18177011)
$$
Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by burkaman on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @12:01PM (#18177054)
No, why this type of job? Why not quit one of your jobs for a couple weeks and spend that time looking for better ones? Everyone is hiring.
Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by twojerbs on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @12:09PM (#18177129)
Because I guess I have more drive to maximize my income than I do integrity. I'm able to do these two simultaneously for the most part.
Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by ComputerGuru on Monday October 08, 2018 @04:34PM (#18171050)
I’ve never worked at companies where using Jira was synonymous with bug quantity over quality. There will always be buglets, bugs, Bugs, and then BUGS.

On the flip side, every once in a while in the fish-shell GitHub repo we get an idiot that files an issue titled “is this even maintained?” because there is a non-zero number of opened issues (or I file a bug on GH and the the repo owner closes it immediately as “will revisit later” so the issue count doesn’t go up).

It’s not a technology problem. It’s a people problem.

Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by userbinator on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:30PM (#18171494)
On the flip side, every once in a while in the fish-shell GitHub repo we get an idiot that files an issue titled “is this even maintained?” because there is a non-zero number of opened issues (or I file a bug on GH and the the repo owner closes it immediately as “will revisit later” so the issue count doesn’t go up).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law

Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by setquk on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:31PM (#18171502)
It’s always a people problem.

You have to force people to own every ticket or they will just rot.

Re:Disappearing videos and disappointed grandmothers by darioush on Monday October 08, 2018 @10:12PM (#18172848)
#closing-tickets-and-attending-conference-calls #ctaacc (read like SEA-TAC)

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