For 11 Years, the Soviet Union Had No Weekends

Re:For 11 Years, the Soviet Union Had No Weekends by dogma1138 on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:17PM (#18162164)

Because statistics are meaningless nearly no one surveyed actually lived under Stalin or spent time in the gulag.

Russian propaganda has been working on “restoring” the image of Stalin and the USSR diligently for over two decades heck just a few days ago they’ve arrested a Russian historian who authored a book on Stalin for being unpatriotic.

https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/170146

https://www.rferl.org/a/second-historian-of-stalin-s-crimes-...

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Re:For 11 Years, the Soviet Union Had No Weekends by sbmthakur on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:25PM (#18173091)

That's false. He was arrested on pedophilia charges.[1][2] I don't understand how that's "unpatriotic".

1. https://www.newsweek.com/men-uncovering-stalin-era-atrocitie...

2. https://themoscowtimes.com/news/gulag-historian-detained-ped....

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Re:For 11 Years, the Soviet Union Had No Weekends by monocasa on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:22PM (#18162193)

I mean, the statistics lean significantly towards those who were adults during the USSR.

It's hilarious that you literally link to radio free europe. "Statistics are meaningless" lolz

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Re:For 11 Years, the Soviet Union Had No Weekends by dogma1138 on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:25PM (#18162203)

Statistics which are built on a state fabricated lie are meaningless when you objectively try to understand the history of the USSR the only thing that is meaningful is is just how bad the transition period is remembered and how well the current propaganda machine works.

It’s also interesting to see just what is driving it, countries like Estonia and Lithuania are EU countries which greatly benefited from integration with western society while the rest of the Russian vassal states were left to fend for themselves and essentially lost what little power they had even if it was only power by proxy.

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Re:For 11 Years, the Soviet Union Had No Weekends by monocasa on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:48PM (#18162294)

Except, once again, the statistics say that the people who were alive tend to have the most favorable opinion. If it was just some conspiracy were everything was made up, you'd expect the opposite.

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Re:For 11 Years, the Soviet Union Had No Weekends by dogma1138 on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:50PM (#18162301)

Stalin died in 1953 how many of the people surveyed were alive during that time to have a favorite view of him especially in comparison to reformers like Gorbachev vs how many of them are utterly brainwashed by the current Russian propaganda machine?

An easy answer would be too look at the numbers for the former USSR states which are now EU members.

Furthermore it's important to note that this is an aggregated statistical butchery from multiple surveys in none of which was a question asked along the lines of "would you rather live under the USSR or being free".

All of these were peripheral questions about various nationalistic identities and historical figures, all of which were heavily retconned in the past few decades by Russia.

Stalin used to be one of the most despised figures in Russian history even during the USSR today he is celebrated as a hero that is simply sickening.

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