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Re:Charles Darwin: Genius or Plodder? by interfixus on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:58AM (#18159385)
The prime glory of Einstein's 1905 papers is their accessibility. Zur Elektrodynamik bewegter Körper is famously devoid of footnotes, and contains no insurmountable math.

Of course he dashed off another three articles in the same edition of Annalen der Physik, all on the same level of comprehensibility, one of which scored him a Nobel prize.

The difficulty of relativity was and is a silly meme. The basic principles are straightforward. I understood them as a boy, and I am - by a regrettably enormous stretch - no genius.

Re:Charles Darwin: Genius or Plodder? by rstuart4133 on Monday October 08, 2018 @04:04AM (#18165196)
Actually I think there is a parallel between Einstein and Darwin, but it's not the brilliance of their thinking. Most of what Einstein came up with is fairly obvious in hindsight. The one thing that wasn't is the math behind General Relativity: but Einstein needed the help of a mathematician with that.

What marks them both is their willingness to abandon the established dogma when it didn't match the facts, and to set off exploring alternative ideas. Both of them are iconoclasts: Einstein because he proposed time wasn't absolute, which is a seriously batty suggestion to just about everyone unfamiliar with his work because we are very familiar with how time works here on earth. To me Darwin the more impressive in this regard because his idea wasn't just seriously batty (no one had seen evolution at work when he proposed it, despite living in it's midst) but just putting it out there was enough to get others burned at the stake.

Another similarity is neither was your typical extroverted iconoclast. Quite the reverse in fact: they doggedly followed their favoured theories because the felt they did a better job of explaining the facts. Both seemingly didn't care that others would think less of them for their ideas.

You can point to others in the same mould: Galileo for instance. The doctor that endured years of ridicule from his peers for suggest gastric ulcers were the result of a bacterial infection is another.

Nonetheless Einstein stands out for second reason: he did it more than once.

Re:Charles Darwin: Genius or Plodder? by nyc111 on Thursday October 11, 2018 @02:05AM (#18191257)
> Einstein because he proposed time wasn't absolute...

Einstein’s iconoclastic idea was his questioning of Newton’s occult force. That was Einstein’s starting point. He could not accept that an occult notion acting instantaneously at a distance can exist in nature. He set out to fix this situation by trying to explain gravity without the Newtonian force. Did he succeed in this?

Also when we look back, we see that Einstein was chosen as a product to be marketed as genius to unite the post-war Europe. A German Jew whose theories proved by the observations of a British team etc.

Re:Charles Darwin: Genius or Plodder? by nyc111 on Thursday October 11, 2018 @02:08AM (#18191272)
> To me Darwin the more impressive in this regard because his idea wasn't just seriously batty (no one had seen evolution at work when he proposed it, despite living in it's midst)

I think the idea of evolution was in the air. Lamarck and Wallace wrote about similar things. I don’t know if Darwin knew about them.

Re:Charles Darwin: Genius or Plodder? by nyc111 on Sunday October 07, 2018 @05:04AM (#18159590)
If so, we must credit academic scholasticism for turning Einstein's simple theory presented in couple of brief journal articles into a 1,275 page book (over 5 pounds!). If those original papers required such a book to make them intelligible, then I would not call General Relativity a simple theory.

The book is of course GR bible Gravitation by MTW.

https://www.amazon.com/Gravitation-Charles-W-Misner/dp/07167...

Re:Charles Darwin: Genius or Plodder? by frutiger on Sunday October 07, 2018 @08:14AM (#18160195)
You may have missed that GP is referring to special relativity which is a lot simpler than what you are referring to (general relativity).
Re:Charles Darwin: Genius or Plodder? by nyc111 on Sunday October 07, 2018 @09:38AM (#18160474)
Yes, I missed that. I had GR in mind.