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Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by pasta on Sunday October 07, 2018 @02:13AM (#18159092)
This and the law: cars are always to blame.

Even in The Netherlands this law was needed to keep bikers safe.

And when introduced even the Dutch made fun of it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ivY06w83fKU

Edit: if you want to look this up, the law is called: "Artikel 185 Wegenverkeerswet".

It's very broad and is not only to protect cyclists. I think this law is more about making drivers of motor vehicles more responsible.

Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by danburbridge on Sunday October 07, 2018 @03:48AM (#18159347)
Cars aren't always to blame. It's just that it starts from the presumption that the car is at fault - which is the case in approx 90% of cases in the UK (although the UK doesn't have this strict-liability unfortunately)
Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by pieterr on Sunday October 07, 2018 @06:23AM (#18159847)
Strict also doesn't mean 'always' in the Netherlands. There are exceptions.

See: https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/strict-liabili...

Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by Rizz on Sunday October 07, 2018 @07:52AM (#18160114)
No, cars aren't too blame, the car owner is only liable for damage, and why does that law exist? Because cars have mandatory liability insurance, bicycles and pedestrians do not. It's not about making drivers more responsible, although it helps most Dutch don't understand what liability means, it's too make sure there is always money to pay for damage, especially if the damage is severe.
Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by pasta on Sunday October 07, 2018 @08:30AM (#18160254)
Most people have a liability insurance so I don't believe this is why the law exists.

This is a very old law from the age of drivers without license and cars made of concrete.

That's also why more and more people think the law is unfair and doesn't fit the current climate.

Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by pieterr on Sunday October 07, 2018 @02:24AM (#18159121)
Great video from “Koot en Bie”! Thanks for bringing up old memories.