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Re:The Python Unicode Mess by uryga on Saturday October 06, 2018 @06:14PM (#18157581)
Okay, it looks like I misunderstood your original point:

> "Are these two things equivalent?" has an unambiguous answer regardless of whether the things are of different types.

as

"Isomorphic things should compare equal"

So, to respond to (what I think is) your actual point: in my view, equality is defined on values of a single type, so I prefer to distinguish

"a isn't equal to b" (= False)

and

"there's no defined way to compare a and b, because they have different types" (= some kind of error or a null-like value)

To me, conflating the two seems counterproductive, but perhaps this is personal preference (probably correlated with how much one likes static typing).

Re:The Python Unicode Mess by ubernostrum on Saturday October 06, 2018 @11:45PM (#18158736)
Python has operator overloading, though, so a flat rule that comparisons involving values of different types must always be a type error would actually reduce the power of the language. Granted, there aren't a ton of use cases where it's important to be able to do this, but it is useful on occasion.
Re:The Python Unicode Mess by uryga on Sunday October 07, 2018 @02:49PM (#18162040)
You're right – I guess I got too hung up on the types. What I meant to say is that I prefer to distinguish "`a` is not equal to `b`" and "equality between `a` and `b` is undefined"; the typing aspect is kind of orthogonal and muddles the discussion.

(I guess I ended up conflating equality and equivalence[1], but in my defense, most languages seem to do that too; and the presence of the `is` operator in Python mixes things up even more)

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equality_(mathematics)#Relat...