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Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by rgj on Saturday October 06, 2018 @05:24PM (#18157352)
I'm Dutch. I've never heard of this, nor has anybody I asked about this. I've never even seen someone in the driver's seat use their right hand to open the door. Dooring is not an issue here either since Dutch cyclists tend to anticipate very well.

What we do have here in the Netherlands are bike lanes, so in a lot of places the bikes pass the parked/stopping cars on the right hand side.

Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by chki on Saturday October 06, 2018 @05:45PM (#18157429)
>Dooring is not an issue here either since Dutch cyclists tend to anticipate very well.

Two points to this: Obviously (and you probably implied this but I want to make it clear:) it is first and foremost the duty of the car driver opening a door to make sure that there is nobody endangered.

Secondly: It is not always possible to anticipate car doors opening, even if you are following traffic very carefully. People sit in their cars for prolonged times without the engines on. It only takes one bad situation to kill a person. Therefore in my opinion all reasonable measures should be taken, including teaching people to open their car doors with the opposing hand. (Even better, as you mentioned: separate different kinds of traffic)

Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by rocqua on Saturday October 06, 2018 @06:16PM (#18157590)
I think a large part of this is that dutch people expect bikes. Therefore, we notice them a lot easier. Scanning for cyclists is very much part of our system.

Another part of this is probably that cyclists are essentially never sandwiched between parked cars and traffic. The sandwiching requires you drive a lot closer to the parked cars. Without it, you can take a lot more distance.

Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by childintime on Saturday October 06, 2018 @06:27PM (#18157645)
Also, dutch cyclists tend to ride at modest speeds (11-15mph) that do not warrant helmets and protective measures. Bike lanes are explicit, so anyone parking knows to not blindly throw a door into the bike lane.

Also never heard of this in the Netherlands.

Note: this was featured on HN several times already.

Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by jrnvs on Saturday October 06, 2018 @06:21PM (#18157616)
I’m Dutch too. This technique was mentioned in the book I read to prepare for the theoretical part of the drivers license exam. I never saw anyone use it in practice.
Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by themodelplumber on Saturday October 06, 2018 @05:28PM (#18157369)
There are a lot of idioms in U.S. English which contain the word "dutch" but which are not recognizable to actual Dutch people. Some of these will come from e.g. stereotyped interactions with the Pennsylvania Dutch, etc.
Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by rgj on Saturday October 06, 2018 @05:31PM (#18157379)
The article states

"There is no name in Dutch for this technique — it’s just second nature to Dutch drivers, and has been for years. It has been deeply ingrained in the country’s culture.

“It’s just what Dutch people do,” said Fred Wegman, professor emeritus of Traffic Safety at Delft University of Technology and the former managing director of the National Institute for Road Safety Research SWOV in the Netherlands. “All Dutch are taught it. It’s part of regular driver education.” "

which is simply not true.

Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by twblalock on Saturday October 06, 2018 @05:29PM (#18157376)
This particular "dutch reach" idiom is not related to the Pennsylvania Dutch in any way.
Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by Symbiote on Saturday October 06, 2018 @05:34PM (#18157392)
None of the "Dutch" idioms will be from Pennsylvania Dutch, they all come from being the neighbour country to England.
Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by NeedMoreTea on Saturday October 06, 2018 @06:26PM (#18157638)
Pennsylvanian "Dutch" is a corruption of "Deutsche", and the community German is it not? As I understood it many of American "Dutch" idioms were originally meant to be referencing German.

You do get cookie from Dutch though. Cookie comes from the Dutch keokje.

Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by stevesimmons on Saturday October 06, 2018 @07:20PM (#18157915)
koekje :)
Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by laurentl on Saturday October 06, 2018 @05:42PM (#18157418)
Ireland?
Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by Kim_Bruning on Saturday October 06, 2018 @07:30PM (#18157964)
Did you used to learn "spiegel spiegel schouder" before getting out instead?

It doesn't work so great on modern cars with folding mirrors though. I think maybe it got introduced more recently?

Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by xkcd-sucks on Saturday October 06, 2018 @06:01PM (#18157516)
In the USA a "Dutch" is a common euphemism for a blunt (marijuana cigar) rolled in a "Dutch Masters" brand cigar wrapper. A "Dutch cruise" is basically loading up a car with people and smoking, and a "Dutch reach" transfers the blunt from a back-seat passenger to a front-seat passenger or driver.
Re:The Dutch Reach: A No-Tech Way to Save Bicyclists’ Lives by justtopost on Sunday October 07, 2018 @01:26AM (#18158973)
Dutch usually means splitting the check to the average americian, but as covered in a recent submission, there are dutch ovens (of various meaning and peasantness), etc. But yes, also dutchy (blunt), but dutch-X meaning blunt-x but thats more of a regional thing imho. Northeast I think.