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Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by medsatwork on Saturday October 06, 2018 @05:18AM (#18154269)
Cannabis: Between 6AM - 10PM are Sativas/Hybrids only (aka, a head buzz). Indicas/Hybrids after 10PM - 5AM (aka, a body buzz). Adderall: 80-120mg per day over 3 dosings 40mg on wake, 40mg 2pm, and 40mg at 5-7pm. Never drink, just not my thing. I use to shroom or roll with friends a handful of times per year (spring cleaning for the mind). We all stopped, but then I got depression, so I have been sorting out a shroom (or xtc or lsd or k or whatever seems right) to replace the 6 month on anti-depressants that I forced myself and doctor off of. Harsher on my system than any drug I've ever taken. That and Adderall would/will have worst long term effects to organs I assume and I've tried almost all common and some not-so except heroin and crack nor would I smoke meth -- those felt and sounded like alice and the rabbit hole with no return. Never had a problem quitting any drug on a moments notice, except for the weed. I know, odd, but that is the only one I might never give up. It calms the anger and frustrations that builds at myself internally suffering due to my LD (learning disabilities) over the day.

To underscore my point on how harsh the anti-depressants for a few months were. 10 years or so back, I got MRSA from a dirty beach blanket in an in-grow calf leg hair (or only thing I can assume). I ended up at emergency room. They had to give "Drug of Last Resort" Vancomycin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_of_last_resort which 100% wiped out my microbiomes and then some. Still, with no gut bacteria no food nor illicit drug had even close to harshest ever those effects of that antidepressant. Never had skin problems, major ones. Never had a day every 45 days or so randomly where I was more depressed than ever while properly taking it.

Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by tuesdayrain on Saturday October 06, 2018 @05:45AM (#18154324)
There's truly nothing in my life as deeply satisfying as coding on 60mgs of adderall and a small bowl or two of cannabis. Unfortunately I've gotten spoiled by looking at code in a state of euphoria, and now I'm completely unproductive while sober. I can't even bear to spend 20 minutes looking at the code I was obsessively writing for 18 hours yesterday. It's just too boring and complex in my normal state of mind. I hope that's just a psychological thing and not because of any permanent damage. I would love to erase all drugs from my life but the code I write in 1 day under the influence is easily better than what I would produce in a month of sobriety.
Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by medsatwork on Saturday October 06, 2018 @06:00AM (#18154360)
I could see others conclude, yes, that is damage or will be from drugs. Which I disagree, but it could then be argued, that of course due to damage affecting my thinking and reasons to think otherwise, not true either. But I don't need to be right, just need to say I know that is one valid angle.

Psychological, your neuro pathways are getting a strong message to build one of the strongest connections between cannabis and addy. That can be reversed or reeducated. I think our brains still need majorly heavy hours of liberal arts, day dreaming, reading books per day or per week + sleep. I use a sleep calculator too, changed my life way more than I assumed.

Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by yuppp on Saturday October 06, 2018 @08:38AM (#18154851)
What sleep calculator do you use? How has it changed your life?
Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by medsatwork on Saturday October 06, 2018 @10:14AM (#18155205)
I 98.7% (close to 100% is my point) never wake up in REM anymore which is the "feel tired all day" state you would feel. I get thru at least one or two full sleep cycles relative to my ability to be percise-ish. I didn't know it was REM that screwed me. I thought, it was an, "at least 4 hours or you are screwed" type rule of thumb. The key is to get thru the full 90 minute (avg) 5 stage sleep cycle and then either wake up or commit to 2 cycles, etc. One or two still has you tired compared to a refreshing 4-5 (low end) or higher. But I was amazed that waking up in REM in the 5th cycle hurts worse sometimes, that getting only 90 cycle or two, egress before next round and surprisingly refresh I can get thru a day. I'm sure a non-layman in the field could turn my Dr. Suess version of an explanation to a more accurate and nuanced version. Tried others, more complex, this is perfect for my needs never looked back:

https://sleepcalculator.com/

Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by ddorian43 on Sunday October 07, 2018 @09:43AM (#18160497)
Did you also buy a fancy alarm clock or just use the calculator ?
Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by eecks on Sunday October 07, 2018 @12:14PM (#18161270)
not the same, but I use a fitbit to track sleep
Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by hobofan on Saturday October 06, 2018 @10:01AM (#18155154)
Not OP, but making sure I have good sleep definately had a big impact on my live, as I now have full productive day to do stuff, instead of having the first half of the day ruined by waking up at the wrong time.

The two options that work best for me are: - Wake up with the sun. Not feasible for every job, or when you have meetings early in the day, but if you have the freedom to do so, I'd recommend it. - Sleep phase alarm that measures your sleep phase by laying on the edge of your mattress and wakes you accordingly. More reliable than a sleep calculator, in my experience. My app of choice for Android is "Sleep as Android" (which is also an awesome Alarm in general).

Your mileage may of course vary, especially if you are already hooked on morning coffee.

Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by usgroup on Saturday October 06, 2018 @07:34AM (#18154603)
That's an interesting point. I don't do "drugs" ever (coffee and wine permitting), but definitely there is a right balance between "care enough to do this for N hours" and "mentally capable to jump the hoops involved". I think being less sober supports the former whilst hurting the latter, but the optimal balance is definitely not "fully sober".
Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by TheAceOfHearts on Saturday October 06, 2018 @10:29PM (#18158551)
You should consider trying something like Sober October. No offense, but keeping that up sounds like a quick and painful way to burn out.
Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by syntheticcdo on Saturday October 06, 2018 @11:40AM (#18155661)
Maybe my body is just amphetamine-sensitive, but 80-120mg of Adderall per day sounds insane.
Re:Ask HN: Do you do drugs while coding? by user3359 on Saturday October 06, 2018 @11:46AM (#18155700)
40mg is normal. 60mg is high dose. 80-120 is absolutely abuse except in 0.1% of the population that just doesn't respond.

20mg XR has me uneasily wired for 18+ hours. Rarely take it because of that.